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philippa gregory co-authored a book "the women of the cousins' war" - it was very interesting temeraire Send a noteboard - 16/08/2012 07:54:50 PM
consisted of several essays by historians attempting to collect information on the prominent women involved. trying to find the women in history is difficult, as they were not given much place in the mainstream texts, and are mostly found in the background of letters and stories that are on the sidelines. the historians had to dig for the information in order to attempt to compile a cohesive narrative.

i also read her historical fiction, which was nice and fictiony, haha.
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cw, you are missed...
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A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin Camilla - 13/08/2012 10:48:37 PM 9004 Views
Fascinating. Legolas - 13/08/2012 11:40:22 PM 2427 Views
Re: Fascinating. Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:23:13 AM 2243 Views
Mainly the names. Werthead - 17/08/2012 12:07:21 AM 2176 Views
Regarding Daenerys as Henry Tudor Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:36:37 AM 2314 Views
Not really. Legolas - 14/08/2012 07:01:36 PM 2413 Views
Shocking Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:49:18 AM 2269 Views
On the Rape issue.... djwilson300 - 14/08/2012 01:19:35 AM 2283 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... dacole - 14/08/2012 02:02:42 AM 2156 Views
Firstly, Camilla is a she. Secondly, though I won't speak for her, regarding the rape in the novels, Ghavrel - 14/08/2012 02:23:19 AM 2307 Views
When does he use rape in an erotic manner? A Deathwatch Guard - 14/08/2012 05:48:59 AM 2159 Views
like all the time. Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:45:42 PM 2248 Views
Camilla is indeed a she. Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:18:58 AM 2209 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. dacole - 14/08/2012 04:37:17 PM 2200 Views
Re: Camilla is indeed a she. Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:39:31 AM 2298 Views
I for one never saw any of the rapes as erotic imlad - 21/08/2012 05:04:11 PM 2441 Views
Re: On the Rape issue.... Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:17:55 AM 2142 Views
How is that a violent rape? At worst it would be statutory rape. Cannoli - 17/08/2012 11:53:44 AM 2229 Views
The wedding night is statutory. I would describe the later rapes as fairly violent. Camilla - 17/08/2012 12:13:26 PM 2261 Views
That was her only sex scene, until she induces him to have outdoor sex to get pregnant Cannoli - 17/08/2012 07:20:09 PM 2252 Views
It is not necessary to provide a scene Camilla - 17/08/2012 10:49:20 PM 2152 Views
I believe that what is happening here is called confirmation bias *NM* Kotagg - 21/08/2012 06:23:38 PM 1203 Views
House Banners/Sigils imlad - 21/08/2012 04:56:07 PM 2206 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin dacole - 14/08/2012 02:08:59 AM 2096 Views
Re: A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin Camilla - 14/08/2012 06:25:11 AM 2200 Views
I think you misread one part Dark Knight - 14/08/2012 04:51:34 PM 2358 Views
I think that the Rhaegar and Lyanna stuff does look like rape in the first book Stephen - 14/08/2012 08:10:27 PM 2157 Views
"Looks like" is this case meaning "explicitly stated to be that way"? Cannoli - 17/08/2012 11:56:48 AM 2110 Views
Currently kicking myself Camilla - 15/08/2012 06:43:36 AM 2353 Views
Re: Currently kicking myself Stephen - 16/08/2012 10:11:01 AM 2185 Views
what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... temeraire - 15/08/2012 01:21:38 AM 2107 Views
Re: what a great review. you echo my thoughts quite a bit... Camilla - 15/08/2012 07:39:24 AM 2330 Views
philippa gregory co-authored a book "the women of the cousins' war" - it was very interesting temeraire - 16/08/2012 07:54:50 PM 2193 Views
Wait...why would you waste time reading this fluff series when it's out on TV? Tom - 16/08/2012 12:10:32 AM 2264 Views
Trollolololololololllll *NM* Kotagg - 16/08/2012 01:02:22 AM 1069 Views
Se noteboard. *NM* Camilla - 16/08/2012 06:29:39 AM 1101 Views
Game, set, and match *NM* Praziquantel - 18/08/2012 03:50:38 PM 1059 Views
I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... lord-of-shadow - 16/08/2012 11:52:40 PM 2064 Views
Re: I always liked the banners and pageantry - it creates an interesting contrast... Camilla - 17/08/2012 06:33:24 AM 2237 Views
I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better Werthead - 17/08/2012 12:20:16 AM 2257 Views
Re: I think the TV series handles the problematic Dany/Drogo relationship better Camilla - 17/08/2012 06:40:12 AM 2149 Views
I think it messed it up by showing forced intercourse without the verbal consent Drogo DID obtain Cannoli - 17/08/2012 12:07:14 PM 2210 Views
I still find it difficult to read it as anything other than a coerced consent Stephen - 17/08/2012 01:08:15 PM 2068 Views
A perpetrator-less crime then. Cannoli - 17/08/2012 07:26:26 PM 2201 Views
Exactly! I'm on board, Cannoli. Kotagg - 18/08/2012 07:45:56 PM 2064 Views
You are missing the point. Camilla - 18/08/2012 11:11:33 PM 2172 Views
Re: You are missing the point. Werthead - 19/08/2012 01:25:30 PM 2230 Views
Re: You are missing the point. Camilla - 19/08/2012 01:40:11 PM 2189 Views
So, you're saying that Juliet was raped by Romeo??? imlad - 21/08/2012 05:24:56 PM 2260 Views
The later books do add more context and change some of this snoopcester - 19/08/2012 12:08:49 AM 2112 Views
Re: The later books do add more context and change some of this Camilla - 19/08/2012 07:27:59 AM 2120 Views
That makes sense snoopcester - 19/08/2012 02:35:36 PM 1890 Views
Jesus Christ another fucking thread about rape and fantasy. Dan - 19/08/2012 01:47:43 AM 1310 Views
Perhaps if reading other people's views makes you so angry, you should avoid reading them? *NM* snoopcester - 19/08/2012 02:37:03 PM 1139 Views
High blood pressure can kill, I hear. *NM* Camilla - 19/08/2012 03:33:14 PM 1200 Views
Nonsense. nossy - 19/08/2012 03:33:39 PM 1092 Views
Fixed it for you. Dan - 19/08/2012 08:22:18 PM 1192 Views
Oh, but that takes us back to snoop being right, and I'm sorry, but I just cannot abide that. nossy - 19/08/2012 10:56:10 PM 1124 Views
Shake the sand out of your vagina bitch. *NM* everynametaken - 20/08/2012 06:35:32 AM 1099 Views
Gosh, this is really turning into something fun. nossy - 20/08/2012 07:15:01 AM 1246 Views
Here I was about to make a "whee misogyny" post. I never get to have fun. *NM* Ghavrel - 20/08/2012 09:09:04 AM 972 Views
Huh. I just came to the odd realization... Legolas - 20/08/2012 08:29:56 PM 1187 Views
Don't lock it! Dan - 21/08/2012 05:11:34 AM 1157 Views
Yes, I'm aware, or I might have locked it already. Legolas - 21/08/2012 06:17:29 PM 1025 Views
I'd ask that you do lock it. Stephen - 21/08/2012 10:00:48 PM 1097 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Legolas - 22/08/2012 06:26:04 PM 1015 Views
I may join you Camilla - 20/08/2012 10:14:50 PM 1172 Views
COME AT ME BRO *NM* Dan - 21/08/2012 05:09:34 AM 1038 Views
The interesting part is... ? - 28/08/2012 01:39:49 AM 2036 Views
That is the best written and most insightful review of that book I have read random thoughts - 01/09/2012 05:38:00 PM 2132 Views
I forgot that I was supposed to read all threads to watch out for Bad Behaviour. Rebekah - 01/09/2012 11:09:52 PM 2349 Views
i'm rereading the series now and yeah there is a LOT of rape Foxhead - 14/09/2012 04:38:27 PM 2718 Views
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