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I would say that if a story uses that sort of thing, it has a science fiction element. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 28/09/2009 05:20:39 AM
I think that any story which relies so thoroughly on sophisticated/non-existent technology is a science fiction story, since the element of science fiction is integral to the plot.

Brave New World is more obviously more futuristic than Nineteen Eight-Four, but I don't think that precludes the latter from being considered science fiction.

EDIT: By way of analogy, I don't really consider Guy Gavriel Kay's The Lions of Al-Rassan to be fantasy, since the only element of the supernatural is the visions of a minor character. If said character's visions were expanded upon and made the centerpiece of the plot, then I'd call the book a fantasy novel.

EDIT2: I don't have any problem with calling it speculative fiction, though. That's probably a more accurate description, to be honest.
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Ever notice how in fantasy books the smaller army always wins? Murtach74 - 20/09/2009 01:01:18 PM 1235 Views
Re: Ever notice how in fantasy books the smaller army always wins? Dunja - 20/09/2009 01:17:00 PM 851 Views
Well, usually the bigger army are the invaders. Defence tends to have an edge AgentOrange - 20/09/2009 04:38:45 PM 888 Views
It's an essential plot device Tom - 20/09/2009 04:41:04 PM 895 Views
Yeah but... Murtach74 - 20/09/2009 07:38:36 PM 861 Views
I don't quite agree Tom - 21/09/2009 01:22:45 AM 802 Views
I'm sitting here trying to think if I've read any books like that... Brian - 21/09/2009 01:40:08 AM 728 Views
Fail. Seriana Sedai - 21/09/2009 04:43:24 AM 943 Views
Agreed. Tom - 21/09/2009 04:59:39 AM 836 Views
Well there are plenty of authors not in their right minds Brian - 21/09/2009 05:49:22 PM 756 Views
True. Seriana Sedai - 21/09/2009 06:50:43 PM 835 Views
Hrmm...guess Miéville failed to follow the script then *NM* Larry - 20/09/2009 07:48:29 PM 304 Views
and a lot of others. But there's a rumour somewhere that it's not the size that matters... *NM* jh - 20/09/2009 07:53:41 PM 301 Views
It's still a valid point, even if one author doesn't "follow the script." *NM* Joker - 25/09/2009 12:34:48 AM 357 Views
Re: Ever notice how in fantasy books the smaller army always wins? Handel - 20/09/2009 08:45:48 PM 1000 Views
That, and... Napoleon62 - 20/09/2009 09:08:48 PM 853 Views
Nineteen Eighty-Four, baby! Ghavrel - 20/09/2009 10:37:05 PM 788 Views
That is not even fantasy... Napoleon62 - 21/09/2009 12:00:48 AM 787 Views
IT ISN'T?! *NM* Ghavrel - 21/09/2009 01:42:16 AM 334 Views
Yeah, didn't your dad tell you about the double ungood days of the 80s? *NM* IndigoAjah - 21/09/2009 01:52:46 AM 324 Views
Doubleplusungood. Ghavrel - 25/09/2009 02:09:27 AM 784 Views
Oops, sorry. Probably a thoughtcrime to put a space in. Rebellious waste of... pixels? Space? *NM* IndigoAjah - 25/09/2009 04:26:14 PM 345 Views
I agree. 1984 is not SF-F. *NM* Joker - 25/09/2009 12:36:46 AM 332 Views
Who knew? ¯\(°O)/¯ *NM* Ghavrel - 25/09/2009 02:07:19 AM 317 Views
I... don't know what those symbols mean. *NM* Joker - 26/09/2009 07:04:13 AM 346 Views
All books should have a point, IMO. Otherwise, what's the point in reading them. IndigoAjah - 25/09/2009 04:32:43 PM 867 Views
Nineteen Eighty-Four is unquestionably Science Fiction. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2009 04:12:47 AM 382 Views
No, it's not. ScyFy does not lay claim to anything and everything that takes place... Joker - 26/09/2009 07:05:59 AM 741 Views
It's a novel which heavily relies upon futuristic technology. How is it not Science Fiction? *NM* Ghavrel - 28/09/2009 01:43:23 AM 322 Views
Because it doesn't have lasers or time-travel in it IndigoAjah - 28/09/2009 02:15:18 AM 749 Views
I read it years ago and I don't remember any futuristic technology except... Joker - 28/09/2009 04:16:21 AM 833 Views
I would say that if a story uses that sort of thing, it has a science fiction element. Ghavrel - 28/09/2009 05:20:39 AM 632 Views
Wheel of Time? Werthead - 20/09/2009 11:52:36 PM 760 Views
I have not found that to be always true IndigoAjah - 21/09/2009 12:52:00 AM 732 Views
The smaller army doesn't always win Tashmere - 21/09/2009 02:47:07 AM 763 Views
Because you don't have to root for the huge army that's supposed to win. Seriana Sedai - 21/09/2009 04:38:22 AM 809 Views
everybody loves an under dog *NM* random thoughts - 21/09/2009 03:51:12 PM 330 Views
Pratchett makes much of this. *NM* Camilla - 21/09/2009 04:11:04 PM 352 Views
"You can take our lives, but you can never take our freedom!" "...wrong!" *NM* Ghavrel - 21/09/2009 11:02:25 PM 285 Views
Exactly what I was going to say Floffe - 27/09/2009 02:55:02 PM 850 Views
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