That's an interesting about Battle Royale being banned. The best reason why though is that the Hunger Games is more obviously post apocalyptic science fiction. It's obviously a dystopia. With Battle Royale, the lines are blurrier, it seems like it could happen or be happening somewhere. That's what made the short story the Lottery so horrifying. Apparently, among the many letters that people wrote expressing their horror, there were quite a few letters asking where are the towns where these lotteries take place and could they come to watch them.
Totally agree on the other point- just because the premise sounds familiar doesn't mean it's a total ripoff. There's more to it than kids killing each other and it's more than one book.
I loved the book, not as much the movie (it was an OK adaptation, but not stellar IMO. The satire aspect wasn't nearly as strong as in the book) perhaps because I read the book long before tracking down a copy of the movie.
I reacted exactly the way you did when I heard about HG (never heard of the books until recently), rolling my eyes and all.
However, I hear more and more reviewers very familiar with Battle Royale who are saying it merely uses the same basic starting idea but it's a mistake to think of it as a simple rip-off and rehash of BR (or King's The Running Man, which IRRC predated it), that it's a lot more to offer on its own than that (one reviewer said it's not even comparable to say, Gattaca vs. Brave New World, in terms of just rehashing ideas). So far all the reviewers I expected to shred that movie apart are saying many positive things about it - speaking of its intelligence notably, and about the book series as well. They also say it has just as much social relevance in today's US as BR had in Japan at the time (though they say that aspect is secondary to the fact it's a well told story with a interesting central character, that the fact it doesn't insult the intelligence of the viewer either is just a big plus).
They've made me tempted to watch it, though I'll most likely wait for home release.
Having only the reviews/commentaries to go by, what I'm puzzled about is how that movie, and it is made for the YA crowd at that, is acceptable whereas Battle Royale got banned and with much fuss at the time (I ended up tracking a HK release that had English subtitles, but after I had seen the movie in Japanese w/o ST). I know BR got banned from US (and therefore Canadian) distribution on the argument it wasn't an acceptable premise for a movie after Columbine (or was it another school shooting, can't recall for sure) the concept itself, not the graphic violence for which BR is hardly a summum - and BR still isn't allowed for distribution/showing in the US, and yet a major studio releases this movie with the very same "unnacceptable" premise without a fuss. Maybe HG isn't quite what I expect in the end, but the reviewers talks of it having the same social satire/condemn violence with violence angle that was behind BR. It sounds a little bizarre/hypocritical.
Totally agree on the other point- just because the premise sounds familiar doesn't mean it's a total ripoff. There's more to it than kids killing each other and it's more than one book.
Battle Royale is fantastic, and the cinema version is a real treat. I love it.
I loved the book, not as much the movie (it was an OK adaptation, but not stellar IMO. The satire aspect wasn't nearly as strong as in the book) perhaps because I read the book long before tracking down a copy of the movie.
I reacted exactly the way you did when I heard about HG (never heard of the books until recently), rolling my eyes and all.
However, I hear more and more reviewers very familiar with Battle Royale who are saying it merely uses the same basic starting idea but it's a mistake to think of it as a simple rip-off and rehash of BR (or King's The Running Man, which IRRC predated it), that it's a lot more to offer on its own than that (one reviewer said it's not even comparable to say, Gattaca vs. Brave New World, in terms of just rehashing ideas). So far all the reviewers I expected to shred that movie apart are saying many positive things about it - speaking of its intelligence notably, and about the book series as well. They also say it has just as much social relevance in today's US as BR had in Japan at the time (though they say that aspect is secondary to the fact it's a well told story with a interesting central character, that the fact it doesn't insult the intelligence of the viewer either is just a big plus).
They've made me tempted to watch it, though I'll most likely wait for home release.
Having only the reviews/commentaries to go by, what I'm puzzled about is how that movie, and it is made for the YA crowd at that, is acceptable whereas Battle Royale got banned and with much fuss at the time (I ended up tracking a HK release that had English subtitles, but after I had seen the movie in Japanese w/o ST). I know BR got banned from US (and therefore Canadian) distribution on the argument it wasn't an acceptable premise for a movie after Columbine (or was it another school shooting, can't recall for sure) the concept itself, not the graphic violence for which BR is hardly a summum - and BR still isn't allowed for distribution/showing in the US, and yet a major studio releases this movie with the very same "unnacceptable" premise without a fuss. Maybe HG isn't quite what I expect in the end, but the reviewers talks of it having the same social satire/condemn violence with violence angle that was behind BR. It sounds a little bizarre/hypocritical.
The Hunger Games
04/03/2012 07:53:10 AM
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I took it as both a lot more than reality TV satire, and not really that at all.
04/03/2012 10:56:22 PM
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Oh Yes, the Hunger Games are *just* like Health Care Reform.
06/03/2012 05:47:18 PM
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Yes, a ruling class makes life & death decisions for you, and popularity influences them heavily
07/03/2012 10:25:40 PM
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I intend to read them at some point... and the government's name is pretty clever.
05/03/2012 11:28:09 PM
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Where's the divided opinion?
06/03/2012 05:48:47 PM
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That's not true
07/03/2012 12:41:06 PM
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It's anything like twilight only in the sense that it has a lot of fans.
07/03/2012 03:36:43 PM
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What about the fact it plagiarizes a better book and movie?
10/03/2012 04:38:15 PM
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Which plagiarized Dune and so on and so forth. [Battle Royale plagiarized the Lotterry, etc, etc]
12/03/2012 06:29:35 PM
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They're worth reading. (Everyone, do just try reading the first book) Ideally, before movie.
06/03/2012 05:44:58 PM
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Even before reading on wikipedia, I thought, "this is a rip-off of Battle Royale."
10/03/2012 01:33:55 AM
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Perhaps you're doing it an injustice...
23/03/2012 09:03:45 PM
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Possible explanations.
23/03/2012 10:50:36 PM
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The first book is the best, but I loved all the books. THey're awesome! *NM*
24/03/2012 12:47:48 AM
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I have a question re: difference to the film
29/03/2012 09:51:57 AM
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(way too detailed) Answers.
29/03/2012 06:02:38 PM
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You know what I was thinking, watching the movies?
30/03/2012 05:16:11 AM
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