Active Users:2275 Time:18/10/2025 03:21:35 AM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
Are you arguing for illegal use of legally protected works? Aeryn Send a noteboard - 04/01/2012 09:34:18 PM
It's not like those books, films, etc aren't accessible in some way - most often for next to nothing.


But they cannot be disseminated freely and legally, and are subject to a myriad contrictions.

If the song is in the public domain, then you can sample it, sing your version of it, and sell it, without asking for permission and paying royalties. Public domain books are available for free over the Internet, and free to publishers - allowing for much cheaper copies.

Most of all, I do believe that extended copyrights are harmful, as they remove the incentive to create and innovate. Why should a publishing company look for new authors when they can keep collecting royalties from existing books for the next 100+ years?
This message last edited by Aeryn on 04/01/2012 at 09:37:19 PM
Reply to message
Why Johnny Can't Read Any New Public Domain Books In The US: Because Nothing New Entered The P.D. Great Lord of Chaos - 03/01/2012 11:33:34 PM 1943 Views
I find it difficult to see this as stealing rights from the public. Rebekah - 04/01/2012 11:15:35 AM 1058 Views
Are you arguing for illegal use of legally protected works? Aeryn - 04/01/2012 09:34:18 PM 1006 Views
No. I'm saying that keeping works in copyright doesn't stop them from being read, watched, etc. Rebekah - 04/01/2012 10:24:50 PM 963 Views
That's not the point, though. Macharius - 05/01/2012 01:05:17 PM 1047 Views
???? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:22:58 PM 1005 Views
Re: ???? Macharius - 05/01/2012 04:04:21 PM 1048 Views
That isn't inspiration that wanting to use the popularity of the original to promote your work random thoughts - 05/01/2012 05:04:25 PM 1011 Views
not to mention public libraries *NM* random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:21:04 PM 543 Views
Blame Disney. *NM* Vivien - 04/01/2012 05:48:00 PM 695 Views
I don't get it. Palatine - 04/01/2012 05:51:19 PM 1299 Views
You know those Jane Austen parodies? Only because Jane Austen is in the public domain. Aeryn - 04/01/2012 09:32:20 PM 1096 Views
Parody is actually covered by the legal definition of fair use so doesn't break copyright. Rebekah - 04/01/2012 10:28:08 PM 1058 Views
I'm fairly sure the Jane Austen parodies do in fact use actual paragraphs... no? *NM* Legolas - 04/01/2012 10:31:32 PM 579 Views
The zombies one doesn't precisely. It's somewhat modernised. I've not read the others. Rebekah - 04/01/2012 10:32:59 PM 991 Views
Precisely the point. Vivien - 04/01/2012 10:45:01 PM 992 Views
Yes, they take tons of text from actual books. Contrast this with Ms. Rowling's reaction. *NM* Aeryn - 05/01/2012 07:01:46 PM 456 Views
If there's zero chance of needing a lawyer at some point, it's way more likely to actually happen. Vivien - 04/01/2012 10:43:23 PM 1089 Views
Regarding quotes or poem lines, they ask permission for those. Legolas - 05/01/2012 07:48:08 PM 939 Views
Answering you specifically Palatine - 05/01/2012 04:57:33 PM 1005 Views
But that doesn't make sense. Aeryn - 05/01/2012 07:18:08 PM 1202 Views
Here's the gist of it. Palatine - 06/01/2012 04:18:29 PM 1031 Views
Patents and copyrights aren't meant to last forever (shouldn't, anyway) Vivien - 04/01/2012 10:33:30 PM 1047 Views
I know they aren't. I don't necessarily agree that they shouldn't though. Palatine - 05/01/2012 05:01:05 PM 948 Views
Copyrights stifle creativity. Aeryn - 05/01/2012 07:48:08 PM 1035 Views
Re: Copyrights stifle creativity. Palatine - 06/01/2012 04:39:24 PM 1478 Views
Re: I know they aren't. I don't necessarily agree that they shouldn't though. Vivien - 06/01/2012 12:47:50 AM 972 Views
Why. Palatine - 06/01/2012 05:05:20 PM 1645 Views
That is a very confusing article. Legolas - 04/01/2012 10:19:22 PM 1130 Views
Works published between 1923 and 1978 are different Larry - 04/01/2012 10:25:16 PM 1058 Views
Do you think it is right that Disney can protect its movies? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 05:29:08 PM 986 Views
Ok, what has movies Disney done lately that were on par with its classics? *NM* Aeryn - 05/01/2012 07:44:20 PM 442 Views
And speaking of Disney's classics... ranagrande - 05/01/2012 10:06:16 PM 1137 Views
Until Disney discovered and copyrighted them, they obviouslty didn't exist. *NM* Vivien - 06/01/2012 12:58:55 AM 479 Views
Except of course they haven't copyrighted them... DomA - 06/01/2012 01:53:01 AM 957 Views
nice theory but you can make a Little Mermaid movie if you want random thoughts - 06/01/2012 02:48:47 PM 1013 Views
OK why is that even a point of argument? random thoughts - 06/01/2012 02:42:47 PM 981 Views
No incentive to make great new works if they can just keep re-releasing Lion King in 3D *NM* Aeryn - 06/01/2012 09:45:38 PM 527 Views
I'm a lot older than your five year old, but I'm not sure I disagree Tangled is better. Legolas - 06/01/2012 11:12:32 PM 1030 Views
Well, if corporations are now people, then maybe their copyright could be different? *shrug* Larry - 05/01/2012 07:57:38 PM 1159 Views
Do you really want corporations to be immortal? Vivien - 06/01/2012 12:50:11 AM 1031 Views
In a sense, aren't they already? Larry - 06/01/2012 02:42:53 AM 1125 Views
Re: Well, if corporations are now people, then maybe their copyright could be different? *shrug* DomA - 06/01/2012 01:18:04 AM 1039 Views
It's a thorny issue and I largely agree with you Larry - 06/01/2012 02:50:24 AM 1057 Views
Huh... apparently, Mickey Mouse is already Public Domain anyway ranagrande - 06/01/2012 07:30:36 AM 1219 Views
Can you back that up? Vivien - 06/01/2012 04:17:35 AM 1165 Views
Re: Can you back that up? DomA - 06/01/2012 06:02:01 PM 938 Views
Artist/Singers used to *always* be on tour in order to make a living. Vivien - 06/01/2012 09:34:44 PM 1252 Views
Re: the piracy issues ranagrande - 06/01/2012 06:30:46 AM 1163 Views
Book piracy Vivien - 06/01/2012 05:21:40 PM 1251 Views
corporations have always had rights random thoughts - 06/01/2012 04:08:12 PM 1003 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes