...they are all sad rape fantasists in my book. I absolutely believe they are getting off on it and it is one of the reasons I stopped reading any of them after the 1st book. I don't think there is any wider cultural conservative oppression in their writing, that would give them too much credit.
At worst they are just getting their jollies, at best they do not have the emotional intelligence to write on the subject and should have been told to steer clear long ago.
At worst they are just getting their jollies, at best they do not have the emotional intelligence to write on the subject and should have been told to steer clear long ago.
Abercrombie, Morgan, Bakker...hrmm...I probably could go further, but it just seems that violence is the core upon which all else in those fictions are predicated. It may just simply be something endemic in the form of fantasy that several choose to write.
They all have to do with physical conflict, war, and revolution yes. But um so does much of life. I truly hope you are not saying that all conflict in works now should somehow be non violent in nature...that would be unbelievably ridiculous. Much of life is and will be violent and that should be shown in the art. Human nature being what it is and very unlikely to change.
Violence, rape, and agency in the "gritty fantasies"
17/12/2011 01:36:54 PM
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Martin, Goodkind...
18/12/2011 01:58:33 PM
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More than just those
18/12/2011 08:15:27 PM
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Re: More than just those
26/12/2011 01:13:21 AM
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On more of a "meta" level, what makes a fantasy story "gritty" in the first place?
19/12/2011 02:58:57 PM
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There has to be something more, though.
19/12/2011 03:47:56 PM
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Re: There has to be something more, though.
19/12/2011 05:29:30 PM
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Re: There has to be something more, though.
19/12/2011 09:06:14 PM
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My problem with aSoIaF...
20/12/2011 05:16:42 AM
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The Rhoynish influence pretty much ends in Dorne.
20/12/2011 06:15:54 AM
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And that makes sense?
20/12/2011 08:54:16 AM
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Yes and no.
20/12/2011 03:10:54 PM
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Re: Yes and no.
26/12/2011 03:12:01 AM
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The power and influence of women in the Middle Ages was limited, but not non-existent.
26/12/2011 01:37:40 PM
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Re: The power and influence of women in the Middle Ages was limited, but not non-existent.
29/12/2011 02:47:06 AM
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Re: There has to be something more, though.
20/12/2011 12:21:39 PM
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Re: On more of a "meta" level, what makes a fantasy story "gritty" in the first place?
26/12/2011 01:15:35 AM
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