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I suspect that if it really isn't derivative it's not being compared to Tolkien in the first place. Tom Send a noteboard - 11/12/2011 04:18:57 AM
The point is that genre fiction is a money-making enterprise and people make money when they spit out the same shit in a slightly different form because the vast majority of people are stupid and like the comfort zone of reading the same crap.

It's only when it gets to the point where even the dimmest of people start to realize they're buying the same shit over and over that the market has to change to adapt. Hollywood is only now getting a lot of blowback from repackaging things like Conan (or the upcoming Robocop, Total Recall and something else remakes that I heard about) that never needed to be redone (or the "new" Spider-Man, when they JUST put out a new series of movies). When we got to "Battleship" the movie, based on the board game, we went way, way too far.

However, when they were putting out a gazillion idiotic action movies that all had the same premise with a slightly different twist, people ate it up, because people are generally stupid.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Aren't the Tolkien comparisons getting a little...old? Dark Knight - 09/12/2011 09:51:39 PM 2850 Views
The comparison bothers me, but not because Tolkien isn't relevant. lord-of-shadow - 09/12/2011 10:05:22 PM 1718 Views
I agree with this. Nate - 09/12/2011 10:21:34 PM 1748 Views
Re: I agree with this. DomA - 10/12/2011 07:09:33 PM 1682 Views
Exactly *NM* ironclad - 12/12/2011 12:09:19 PM 856 Views
Only when shit works are being compared to him Larry - 09/12/2011 10:22:26 PM 1609 Views
Larry, Macharius - 10/12/2011 01:13:18 AM 1627 Views
Snide dismissal that will be passed off as for his own entertainment. Ghavrel - 10/12/2011 04:55:43 AM 1539 Views
We get a lot of that around here. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 10/12/2011 05:18:01 AM 640 Views
makes me wonder... LadyLorraine - 10/12/2011 04:37:33 PM 1525 Views
Re: makes me wonder... James - 11/12/2011 03:03:15 AM 1491 Views
Well-deserved condescension. Tom - 11/12/2011 03:54:27 AM 1658 Views
You're sure about that? A Deathwatch Guard - 11/12/2011 04:20:26 AM 1885 Views
Re: You're sure about that? James - 11/12/2011 05:25:08 AM 1610 Views
Re: You're sure about that? A Deathwatch Guard - 11/12/2011 06:03:02 AM 1476 Views
i think you shouldn't judge a whole world's school programs on your school LadyLorraine - 11/12/2011 06:42:30 AM 1527 Views
Yeah, I'm limited in my knowledge, lol A Deathwatch Guard - 11/12/2011 08:03:26 AM 1539 Views
My school was...not great. James - 11/12/2011 04:02:36 PM 1565 Views
I'm 24. James - 11/12/2011 03:49:06 PM 1483 Views
If you're arguing that children should be able to read genre fiction, fine. Tom - 11/12/2011 08:52:27 PM 1407 Views
Well, I suppose it depends on the type of genre being read Larry - 11/12/2011 09:36:16 PM 1642 Views
How often do you hear the challenging writers mentioned at this site? Tom - 12/12/2011 02:03:05 PM 1379 Views
Only when you, me, and a couple others write reviews Larry - 12/12/2011 04:21:14 PM 1782 Views
Oh, it was the same as it always is Tom - 12/12/2011 05:23:56 PM 1492 Views
True Larry - 12/12/2011 06:29:10 PM 1577 Views
One note nossy - 13/12/2011 12:17:48 AM 1585 Views
Perhaps Larry - 13/12/2011 12:49:34 AM 1518 Views
*Sighs* Such is the plight of those shining few intelects... Narg - 23/12/2011 01:15:47 AM 1567 Views
Much of the actual "Classics", that is, Greek and Latin originals, kids would eat up. Dan - 12/12/2011 03:13:03 AM 1391 Views
Try teaching Apuleius in schools... *NM* Tom - 12/12/2011 04:12:49 AM 760 Views
Plato is exciting, brutal and scandalous? Legolas - 12/12/2011 09:59:13 PM 1457 Views
You're upfront and honest about it; he isn't. The difference matters to me. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/12/2011 05:18:42 AM 808 Views
Uhh...uh... Larry - 11/12/2011 05:34:23 AM 1492 Views
this is a bit off topic, but out of curiousity... LadyLorraine - 11/12/2011 06:28:35 AM 1601 Views
I've discussed this dozens of times at this site. Perhaps you've missed all of the posts. Tom - 11/12/2011 08:57:44 PM 1540 Views
mk I'll go look. I probably did miss it (or at least don't remember it!) LadyLorraine - 11/12/2011 09:08:02 PM 1506 Views
I have a successful career that was inspired by the video games I played as a child. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 11/12/2011 05:52:21 PM 838 Views
Now let's get all the people who just pissed their lives away with video games and see the %. Tom - 11/12/2011 08:58:42 PM 1642 Views
The majority of players neither waste their lives nor make a career out of it. lord-of-shadow - 11/12/2011 11:29:29 PM 1540 Views
Yeah, sorry, I don't think you could say that with a straight face in real life. *NM* Tom - 12/12/2011 04:13:52 AM 775 Views
Then you have a closed mind on the subject. Ironic, considering your stance on edification. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 12/12/2011 05:47:50 AM 715 Views
No, just with respect to you. *NM* Tom - 12/12/2011 02:00:15 PM 760 Views
Tom, you pulled the "Say that to my face!" line. You lost the right to talk about respect. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 12/12/2011 03:20:15 PM 808 Views
Once again, I really don't care what you think. *NM* Tom - 12/12/2011 03:37:40 PM 765 Views
Did I imply that you did? My apologies. I'd hate to insinuate that you'd stoop that low. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 12/12/2011 04:13:25 PM 735 Views
As well read as you seem to be, you think you'd be smart enough... MonCul - 11/12/2011 06:20:06 PM 1485 Views
I thought I have made it clear that I don't care if people don't like me here. Tom - 11/12/2011 08:44:58 PM 1406 Views
Re: I thought I have made it clear that I don't care if people don't like me here. Macharius - 12/12/2011 04:04:37 PM 1459 Views
That statement has just confused me. Tom - 12/12/2011 04:06:53 PM 1417 Views
Re: That statement has just confused me. Macharius - 12/12/2011 04:14:27 PM 1425 Views
I never learned Hittite. I had a book on pre-order for a long time but never ended up getting it. Tom - 12/12/2011 05:41:03 PM 1374 Views
What you have made clear, I think, is the fact that you deal in generalizations and stereotypes. MonCul - 12/12/2011 10:12:12 PM 1528 Views
There's an unintentional irony in what you say, alas Larry - 13/12/2011 12:44:26 AM 1445 Views
Tom, Dick, or Larry...you may use your true first name, but you're still an anonymous entity to most MonCul - 13/12/2011 04:49:35 AM 1648 Views
With such comeback skills, you must have ruled the playgrounds as a kid, no? Larry - 13/12/2011 05:21:42 AM 1656 Views
I thought it was a pretty good comeback. MonCul - 13/12/2011 12:37:15 PM 1618 Views
Think again, Skippy Larry - 13/12/2011 01:34:41 PM 1472 Views
There are no special snowflakes, are there? Larry - 11/12/2011 09:39:21 PM 1405 Views
There are many way of widening one's horizons and broadening one's mind. Legolas - 11/12/2011 10:08:24 PM 1167 Views
I said as much in my comment Larry - 11/12/2011 10:20:03 PM 1438 Views
What I don't like- rebelaessedai - 12/12/2011 04:28:55 AM 1523 Views
Why don't you name something, then? Tom - 12/12/2011 04:40:29 AM 1472 Views
Sure. rebelaessedai - 13/12/2011 07:30:56 AM 1300 Views
Mentioning Ender's Game pretty much shot your argument in the foot. Tom - 13/12/2011 02:02:59 PM 1413 Views
You dismiss the entire video game medium because many games lack value. lord-of-shadow - 13/12/2011 03:59:11 PM 1561 Views
You're like the McDonald's paid advocate trying to say Big Macs are actually healthy. Tom - 13/12/2011 05:46:37 PM 1366 Views
McDonalds food is inherently unhealthy. lord-of-shadow - 13/12/2011 06:02:18 PM 1505 Views
For the sake of argument ... Nate - 13/12/2011 04:09:51 PM 1407 Views
Stephenson is not literature, that's for damn sure. Tom - 13/12/2011 05:49:24 PM 1357 Views
Thank you, The Voice of Lews Therin. *NM* Vivien - 16/12/2011 05:14:42 AM 826 Views
I'll leave it up to others to define as they wish against their self-conceptions of me Larry - 10/12/2011 10:52:54 AM 1519 Views
that's alright. I really have no desire to stroke your twit-ego. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/12/2011 04:36:56 PM 617 Views
Considering the firestorm I appear to have touched off, that may be best. Macharius - 12/12/2011 12:57:49 PM 1504 Views
I know, John Larry - 12/12/2011 04:27:04 PM 1395 Views
Re: I know, John Macharius - 12/12/2011 05:06:26 PM 1456 Views
As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% Larry - 12/12/2011 06:33:52 PM 1392 Views
Re: As I've said in the past, I'd be scared if anyone agreed with me anywhere approaching 100% Macharius - 12/12/2011 07:13:37 PM 1468 Views
Same guy Larry - 12/12/2011 07:26:13 PM 1511 Views
Ha! Excellent point. *NM* Tom - 11/12/2011 03:44:52 AM 744 Views
Blurbs are not generally very original in their comparisons - would kind of defeat their purpose. Legolas - 09/12/2011 10:42:17 PM 1493 Views
I have to agree. ? - 09/12/2011 10:54:06 PM 1511 Views
They're there for marketing A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2011 12:20:17 AM 1491 Views
Most of those comparisons are like that anyway DomA - 10/12/2011 05:32:45 PM 1625 Views
Maybe if so much of the genre weren't crap derivative works it wouldn't be so common. *NM* Tom - 11/12/2011 03:44:24 AM 740 Views
To be fair, a lot of it isn't. rebelaessedai - 11/12/2011 04:06:07 AM 1443 Views
I suspect that if it really isn't derivative it's not being compared to Tolkien in the first place. Tom - 11/12/2011 04:18:57 AM 1375 Views
That's true. rebelaessedai - 11/12/2011 11:08:01 AM 1367 Views
But see, that's where things start to get referred back to Tolkien. Tom - 12/12/2011 04:30:12 AM 1523 Views
Maybe they mean something else by using his name. Cannoli - 11/12/2011 03:50:15 AM 1451 Views
When they don't work, yes. nossy - 11/12/2011 03:18:44 PM 1452 Views
The Tolkien fanaticism gets old. And yes, for me it is unreadable. everynametaken - 11/12/2011 11:37:53 PM 1439 Views
No, because the movies are very contemporary and relevant, thus he will remain so for quite a while. Dan - 12/12/2011 03:14:53 AM 1494 Views
Disagree all you want, but LotR is still the touchstone when it comes to works of fantasy. Vodalus - 12/12/2011 03:48:20 AM 1405 Views
Yes *NM* Hieshyn - 22/12/2011 07:08:38 PM 860 Views
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