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You might like this quote from House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski. heartbreak Send a noteboard - 11/08/2011 03:42:05 PM
"a moment will come, maybe in a month, maybe a
year, maybe even several years. You'll be sick or
feeling troubled or deeply in love or quietly
uncertain or even content for the first time in your
life. It won't matter. Out of the blue, beyond any
cause you can trace, you'll suddenly realize things
are not how you perceived them to be at all. For some
reason, you will no longer be the person you believed
you once were. You'll detect slow and subtle shifts
going on all around you, more importantly shifts in
you. Worse, you'll realize it's always been shifting,
like a shimmer of sorts, a vast shimmer, only dark
like a room. But you won't understand why or how.
You'll have forgotten what granted you this awareness
in the first place.

Old shelters--television, magazines,
movies--won't protect you anymore. You might try
scribbling in a journal, on a napkin, maybe even in
the margins of this book. That's when you'll discover
you no longer trust the very walls you always took for
granted. Even the hallways you've walked a hundred
times will feel longer, much longer, and the shadows,
any shadow at all, will suddenly seem deeper, much,
much, deeper.

You might try then, as I did, to find a sky so
full of stars it will blind you again. Only no sky
can blind you now. Even with all that iridescent
magic up there, your eye will no longer linger on the
light, it will no longer trace constellations. You'll
care only about the darkness and you'll watch it for
hours, for days, maybe even for years, trying in vain
to believe you're some kind of indispensable,
universe-appointed sentinel, as if just by looking you
could actually keep it all at bay. It will get so bad
you'll be afraid to look away, you'll be afraid to
sleep.

Then no matter where you are, in a crowded
restaurant or on some desolate street or even in the
comforts of your own home, you'll watch yourself
dismantle every assurance you ever lived by. You'll
stand aside as a great complexity intrudes, tearing
apart, piece by piece, all of your carefully conceived
denials, whether deliberate or unconscious. And then
for better or worse you'll turn, unable to resist,
though try to resist you still will, fighting with
everything you've got not to face the thing you most
dread, what is now, what will be, what has always come
before, the creature you truly are, the creature we
all are, buried in the nameless black of a name.
And then the nightmares will begin."
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A Dance with Dragons discussion thread - 11/07/2011 10:48:23 PM 6665 Views
Okay, first impressions. Basically spoiler-free, I suppose. - 11/07/2011 11:40:31 PM 2211 Views
I have it! *NM* - 12/07/2011 05:42:27 AM 1199 Views
A general question to get the discussion started: will two more books be enough? - 12/07/2011 02:22:52 PM 2412 Views
A very good question *major spoilers, then* - 12/07/2011 02:55:05 PM 2370 Views
Oh, come on. If anyone can do it, Martin can. - 15/07/2011 03:48:27 AM 2069 Views
It'll be tight. - 12/07/2011 04:32:39 PM 2406 Views
No but I think 3 will be possible - 26/07/2011 03:15:02 AM 2185 Views
what is Purple Wedding? *NM* - 27/07/2011 08:37:04 AM 1083 Views
Joffrey and Margaery wedding - 27/07/2011 04:26:04 PM 2228 Views
Hero of the book? - 12/07/2011 10:12:02 PM 2516 Views
Lord Manderly gets my vote. - 12/07/2011 10:41:19 PM 2290 Views
Re: Hero of the book? - 12/07/2011 10:43:20 PM 2190 Views
Re: Hero of the book? - 12/07/2011 11:50:29 PM 2187 Views
Ohh, so that was what that was about. - 17/07/2011 07:08:19 PM 2250 Views
That's what I thought too. - 25/07/2011 01:48:50 AM 2207 Views
Victorian Greyjoy = Hero of the book *NM* - 21/07/2011 06:20:25 AM 1268 Views
Asshole of the book? - 12/07/2011 10:46:10 PM 2397 Views
Agreed. - 12/07/2011 11:18:07 PM 2342 Views
Yeah, little doubt there. - 17/07/2011 07:09:53 PM 2199 Views
Seriously... - 18/07/2011 03:07:47 AM 2166 Views
Daenerys Targaryen & lifetime achievement award to Lord Rickard Stark - 17/08/2011 12:38:40 AM 2114 Views
Idiot of the book. - 12/07/2011 11:21:51 PM 2431 Views
lol yep, definitely *NM* - 13/07/2011 08:12:42 AM 1196 Views
Re: Idiot of the book. - 17/07/2011 12:42:20 AM 2292 Views
Wait... no she doesn't! - 17/07/2011 01:29:52 AM 2176 Views
She thinks both - 18/07/2011 12:22:59 AM 2113 Views
So... - 17/07/2011 07:18:24 PM 2167 Views
No, it's him. - 18/07/2011 12:25:33 AM 2172 Views
Is there any hot sex scenes? I won't be able to read it for a while *NM* - 13/07/2011 02:35:49 PM 1279 Views
One or two, but not all that long ones *NM* - 13/07/2011 02:57:12 PM 1236 Views
Great Ending - 14/07/2011 01:21:53 AM 2404 Views
Really? - 14/07/2011 09:36:01 AM 2351 Views
Re: Really? - 14/07/2011 09:38:34 AM 1994 Views
Re: Great Ending - 18/07/2011 02:05:00 AM 2155 Views
YES! - 14/07/2011 02:38:48 AM 1977 Views
Sorry for the n00b reply, sentiments still apply - 16/07/2011 07:27:43 PM 2149 Views
Re: Sorry for the n00b reply, sentiments still apply - 17/07/2011 12:45:52 AM 2120 Views
I don't know what to think... (spoiler) - 14/07/2011 08:59:39 AM 2365 Views
Probably not. - 14/07/2011 09:19:03 AM 2320 Views
Re: Probably not. - 14/07/2011 03:57:55 PM 2175 Views
I think the two are mixed up. - 14/07/2011 11:23:06 PM 2237 Views
Re: I think the two are mixed up. - 18/07/2011 02:10:29 AM 2084 Views
What made least sense for me as far as that is concerned... - 14/07/2011 11:51:20 AM 2229 Views
They didn't. - 14/07/2011 11:24:53 PM 2279 Views
I see - 15/07/2011 08:28:09 AM 2186 Views
Didn't Jon just announced - 26/07/2011 02:51:07 AM 2119 Views
Something I totally missed first time through - 14/07/2011 09:40:33 AM 2554 Views
Re: Something I totally missed first time through - 16/07/2011 01:24:23 AM 2449 Views
Yep, that's what he said/thought - 17/07/2011 05:02:32 AM 2290 Views
Re: Something I totally missed first time through - 23/07/2011 04:14:38 PM 2099 Views
Well that brings new meaning - 26/07/2011 02:53:18 AM 2043 Views
I'm still not fully done, but about the Reek chapters... - 14/07/2011 04:05:29 PM 2271 Views
Agreed - 14/07/2011 06:18:15 PM 2276 Views
There's another... - 14/07/2011 07:16:11 PM 2079 Views
There's that... - 17/07/2011 01:12:33 AM 2125 Views
It's worse than that... - 17/07/2011 01:26:50 AM 2176 Views
Torture is wrong, and those chapters kinda proved it. *NM* - 26/07/2011 02:53:55 AM 1173 Views
Having finished the book, my thoughts. (Spoilers) - 16/07/2011 08:11:30 AM 2261 Views
Re: Having finished the book, my thoughts. (Spoilers) - 17/07/2011 01:02:10 AM 2198 Views
You put words to my thoughts exactly. - 18/08/2011 09:17:09 PM 2131 Views
It should be re-titled A Jump with Sharks - 17/07/2011 06:00:37 PM 2369 Views
Publishers are more interested in the bottom line. - 18/07/2011 12:31:56 AM 2132 Views
Sadly, I am likely overestimating the intelligence of the readers. - 18/07/2011 03:05:12 AM 2358 Views
I felt bummed by Sanderson's new series. - 18/07/2011 05:25:09 AM 2230 Views
I bought that book but have yet to read it. - 18/07/2011 01:09:15 PM 2091 Views
Re: I bought that book but have yet to read it. - 20/07/2011 06:45:46 AM 2138 Views
You might like this quote from House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski. - 11/08/2011 03:42:05 PM 2303 Views
I'm afraid I have to agree with what seems to be the majority opinion... - 17/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 2242 Views
And on a different note entirely: is it me, or did the book need more proofreading? - 17/07/2011 07:39:15 PM 2140 Views
Yeah, I agree. - 18/07/2011 05:59:58 PM 2177 Views
The book really shows it is AFFC part 2 - 26/07/2011 03:00:07 AM 2177 Views
Am I The Only One In Love With Arya's Chapters? *spoilers maybe* - 18/07/2011 02:22:00 AM 2186 Views
I enjoyed them, very solid chapters. - 18/07/2011 12:50:43 PM 2254 Views
Unlike others, I won't start a separate thread to express my thoughts - 19/07/2011 11:21:17 AM 2343 Views
Yeah, I wished there was a way to move them in here! - 19/07/2011 01:42:51 PM 2120 Views
Me too... but going and complaining about them seems so lame, too. - 19/07/2011 07:34:47 PM 2096 Views
I agree with Jens, good balanced review. *NM* - 19/07/2011 07:50:13 PM 1159 Views
I think you let him off too easily. - 20/07/2011 04:19:07 AM 2231 Views
Your review is a little too generous (in my opinion) - 20/07/2011 06:57:45 AM 2414 Views
I find myself both depressed and let down... - 20/07/2011 06:37:16 AM 2538 Views
Am I the only one who really likes... - 20/07/2011 06:04:00 PM 2327 Views
yeh, he is nice... *NM* - 20/07/2011 06:20:13 PM 1155 Views
Davos is probably my favourite - 20/07/2011 09:51:03 PM 1987 Views
The six bodies fired by the trebuchet - 20/07/2011 10:36:16 PM 2178 Views
Yes, I was confused by that too. - 20/07/2011 10:53:35 PM 2134 Views
Probably pale mare victims. Seige warfare via plague - 20/07/2011 11:23:10 PM 2146 Views
Yes, I considered that as well... - 20/07/2011 11:48:32 PM 2119 Views
Have Quentyn's two mates already been sent off a this point? - 21/07/2011 02:03:15 PM 2188 Views
That could be it. *NM* - 21/07/2011 01:43:16 PM 1067 Views
Stannis - 21/07/2011 08:43:40 AM 2126 Views
It's entirely possible Stannis was killed - 21/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 2186 Views
I highly doubt he's dead - 21/07/2011 07:29:59 PM 2181 Views
The bluff makes the most sense: if the Boltons beat Stannis, why does he ask for Theon & Jeyne? - 22/07/2011 12:01:30 AM 2226 Views
Yeah... - 22/07/2011 12:27:53 AM 2100 Views
The Aegon Twist. Something about this doesn't add up. - 21/07/2011 10:43:43 PM 2230 Views
Re: The Aegon Twist. Something about this doesn't add up. - 22/07/2011 05:42:13 PM 2297 Views
Alternatively.. - 22/07/2011 09:13:46 PM 2125 Views
Which gods do you think are "real" in Martin's world? - 22/07/2011 04:32:39 PM 2178 Views
None of them. - 22/07/2011 06:25:19 PM 2080 Views
Is that personal opinion or based on something Martin said? *NM* - 22/07/2011 06:37:57 PM 1157 Views
Opinion - 22/07/2011 07:43:16 PM 2118 Views
I think there are some god's, just given different names. Same with the magic. - 22/07/2011 09:24:51 PM 2104 Views
Lose the apostrophe in the subject line. Then: on what basis do you assume this? - 23/07/2011 02:28:49 AM 2139 Views
You might want to stop wasting time correcting others typos. As for the gods... - 23/07/2011 04:53:59 AM 2031 Views
You might want to stop making them. Particularly glaring ones like that. - 23/07/2011 05:01:03 AM 2209 Views
A typo can't be "glaring"... - 23/07/2011 08:08:51 AM 2093 Views
Sure it can. Glaring: conspicuous or obvious. - 23/07/2011 03:52:57 PM 2089 Views
Morality stems from god? - 22/07/2011 10:47:59 PM 2088 Views
Of course it does - 23/07/2011 02:26:50 AM 2066 Views
On second thought, let's address the issue directly. - 23/07/2011 05:14:59 AM 2202 Views
Perhaps... - 24/07/2011 07:03:24 PM 2102 Views
Its simple... - 24/07/2011 07:37:11 PM 2113 Views
I disagree... - 25/07/2011 04:10:04 AM 2170 Views
Bullshit. - 25/07/2011 05:44:41 AM 2041 Views
Re: Bullshit. - 25/07/2011 06:27:09 AM 1966 Views
Some thoughts... - 25/07/2011 04:54:05 AM 2119 Views
It's not an objective morality. - 25/07/2011 05:41:33 AM 2068 Views
Its not that simple... - 25/07/2011 06:21:39 AM 2138 Views
I don't disagree with most of what you said. I just reach a different conclusion. - 25/07/2011 01:57:31 PM 2042 Views
Well... - 25/07/2011 05:02:45 PM 2066 Views
How then do you deal with the Euthyphro dilemma? - 16/08/2011 01:43:18 PM 1933 Views
Re: Which gods do you think are "real" in Martin's world? - 25/07/2011 02:24:07 PM 1998 Views
Whats the best new POV - 26/07/2011 03:14:05 AM 2133 Views
Barristan - 26/07/2011 12:23:20 PM 2086 Views
Didn't Aeron "Damphair" Greyjoy also only have 2 POVs - 26/07/2011 03:56:57 PM 2194 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:33:11 PM 1204 Views
thirded. - 27/07/2011 04:16:26 PM 1975 Views
Absolutely *NM* - 29/07/2011 02:31:54 AM 1271 Views
Things you missed till they were pointed out via others or via a reread - 26/07/2011 03:23:53 AM 2266 Views
A bit. - 26/07/2011 12:32:32 PM 2221 Views
- 26/07/2011 03:46:54 PM 2171 Views
Re: - 27/07/2011 12:43:43 AM 2159 Views
Martin doesn't have to do anything - 27/07/2011 01:33:36 AM 2199 Views
Re: Martin doesn't have to do anything - 27/07/2011 04:38:19 AM 2068 Views
Re: Martin doesn't have to do anything - 27/07/2011 08:58:55 AM 1983 Views
Re: - 27/07/2011 04:27:18 AM 2213 Views
I like your theory. - 27/07/2011 04:35:22 PM 2228 Views
Interesting... hadn't noticed some of those either. - 26/07/2011 11:32:18 PM 2192 Views
Re: Interesting... hadn't noticed some of those either. - 27/07/2011 02:00:42 AM 2062 Views
Eh? - 29/07/2011 04:44:17 PM 2198 Views
This is complicated. - 31/07/2011 10:43:15 PM 2423 Views
Wait...a woman crowned for beauty was the victorious mystery knight? - 01/08/2011 03:00:49 AM 2087 Views
It is believed the Knight of the Laughing Tree is one of two people - 01/08/2011 04:47:21 AM 2179 Views
Yup. - 02/08/2011 12:03:26 AM 2032 Views
Also... - 02/08/2011 07:17:43 AM 2102 Views
And yet, my huge brain figures it out - 04/08/2011 04:20:06 PM 2114 Views
I've read this scene yesterday and I missed this... - 02/08/2011 07:55:35 AM 2123 Views
Allow me - 05/08/2011 02:14:15 PM 2007 Views
thanks *NM* - 07/08/2011 07:28:21 AM 1144 Views
I thought this was pretty clear - 07/08/2011 05:18:54 PM 2017 Views
Hizdahr a Harpy? Innocent or Not? - 26/07/2011 03:36:56 AM 2417 Views
Interesting idea. - 26/07/2011 12:25:11 PM 2198 Views
Re: Interesting idea. - 27/07/2011 04:25:02 PM 2131 Views
What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? - 26/07/2011 04:13:27 PM 2131 Views
Re: What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? - 27/07/2011 12:49:52 AM 2335 Views
Re: What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? - 27/07/2011 03:49:18 AM 2275 Views
Re: A Dance with Dragons discussion thread - 29/07/2011 01:42:57 AM 2316 Views
Okay. I suck. - 29/07/2011 01:50:56 AM 2073 Views
Let me rephrase that... - 29/07/2011 01:54:07 AM 2054 Views
Jon Snow is definitely Azor Ahai. - 29/07/2011 07:31:17 PM 2652 Views
Hmm - 31/07/2011 01:52:03 PM 2544 Views
you are correct - 31/07/2011 11:08:39 PM 2134 Views
Yup. - 31/07/2011 10:49:34 PM 1999 Views
But Shireen is a dragon... - 01/08/2011 12:22:16 AM 2125 Views
I'm uncertain about that - 01/08/2011 05:35:18 AM 2105 Views
True, but I wouldn't read too much into that. - 01/08/2011 11:42:29 PM 2387 Views
Where did he say that? - 02/08/2011 07:18:39 AM 2260 Views
In interviews - 02/08/2011 02:21:28 PM 2208 Views
A little thought about Jon... - 02/08/2011 08:02:34 AM 2272 Views
Excellent point. - 02/08/2011 02:22:22 PM 2200 Views
Am I the only one who thinks... - 09/08/2011 05:16:46 PM 2234 Views
I think Martin's gonna stick to Bran being the only one who does that - 10/08/2011 09:25:12 AM 2305 Views
Anyone have any thoughts as to the purpose of Arya's storyline? - 14/08/2011 06:28:09 PM 2144 Views
She's being trained as an assassin, so the question is who is she going to kill? - 16/08/2011 01:43:12 AM 2059 Views
Jon? - 18/08/2011 09:59:03 PM 2106 Views

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