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"a moment will come, maybe in a month, maybe a
year, maybe even several years. You'll be sick or
feeling troubled or deeply in love or quietly
uncertain or even content for the first time in your
life. It won't matter. Out of the blue, beyond any
cause you can trace, you'll suddenly realize things
are not how you perceived them to be at all. For some
reason, you will no longer be the person you believed
you once were. You'll detect slow and subtle shifts
going on all around you, more importantly shifts in
you. Worse, you'll realize it's always been shifting,
like a shimmer of sorts, a vast shimmer, only dark
like a room. But you won't understand why or how.
You'll have forgotten what granted you this awareness
in the first place.

Old shelters--television, magazines,
movies--won't protect you anymore. You might try
scribbling in a journal, on a napkin, maybe even in
the margins of this book. That's when you'll discover
you no longer trust the very walls you always took for
granted. Even the hallways you've walked a hundred
times will feel longer, much longer, and the shadows,
any shadow at all, will suddenly seem deeper, much,
much, deeper.

You might try then, as I did, to find a sky so
full of stars it will blind you again. Only no sky
can blind you now. Even with all that iridescent
magic up there, your eye will no longer linger on the
light, it will no longer trace constellations. You'll
care only about the darkness and you'll watch it for
hours, for days, maybe even for years, trying in vain
to believe you're some kind of indispensable,
universe-appointed sentinel, as if just by looking you
could actually keep it all at bay. It will get so bad
you'll be afraid to look away, you'll be afraid to
sleep.

Then no matter where you are, in a crowded
restaurant or on some desolate street or even in the
comforts of your own home, you'll watch yourself
dismantle every assurance you ever lived by. You'll
stand aside as a great complexity intrudes, tearing
apart, piece by piece, all of your carefully conceived
denials, whether deliberate or unconscious. And then
for better or worse you'll turn, unable to resist,
though try to resist you still will, fighting with
everything you've got not to face the thing you most
dread, what is now, what will be, what has always come
before, the creature you truly are, the creature we
all are, buried in the nameless black of a name.
And then the nightmares will begin."
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A Dance with Dragons discussion thread - 11/07/2011 10:48:23 PM 6783 Views
Okay, first impressions. Basically spoiler-free, I suppose. - 11/07/2011 11:40:31 PM 2341 Views
I have it! *NM* - 12/07/2011 05:42:27 AM 1278 Views
A general question to get the discussion started: will two more books be enough? - 12/07/2011 02:22:52 PM 2532 Views
A very good question *major spoilers, then* - 12/07/2011 02:55:05 PM 2506 Views
Oh, come on. If anyone can do it, Martin can. - 15/07/2011 03:48:27 AM 2203 Views
It'll be tight. - 12/07/2011 04:32:39 PM 2537 Views
No but I think 3 will be possible - 26/07/2011 03:15:02 AM 2301 Views
what is Purple Wedding? *NM* - 27/07/2011 08:37:04 AM 1150 Views
Joffrey and Margaery wedding - 27/07/2011 04:26:04 PM 2338 Views
Hero of the book? - 12/07/2011 10:12:02 PM 2629 Views
Lord Manderly gets my vote. - 12/07/2011 10:41:19 PM 2420 Views
Re: Hero of the book? - 12/07/2011 10:43:20 PM 2311 Views
Re: Hero of the book? - 12/07/2011 11:50:29 PM 2306 Views
Ohh, so that was what that was about. - 17/07/2011 07:08:19 PM 2368 Views
That's what I thought too. - 25/07/2011 01:48:50 AM 2319 Views
Victorian Greyjoy = Hero of the book *NM* - 21/07/2011 06:20:25 AM 1338 Views
Asshole of the book? - 12/07/2011 10:46:10 PM 2787 Views
Agreed. - 12/07/2011 11:18:07 PM 2459 Views
Yeah, little doubt there. - 17/07/2011 07:09:53 PM 2322 Views
Seriously... - 18/07/2011 03:07:47 AM 2286 Views
Daenerys Targaryen & lifetime achievement award to Lord Rickard Stark - 17/08/2011 12:38:40 AM 2239 Views
Idiot of the book. - 12/07/2011 11:21:51 PM 2539 Views
lol yep, definitely *NM* - 13/07/2011 08:12:42 AM 1268 Views
Re: Idiot of the book. - 17/07/2011 12:42:20 AM 2405 Views
Wait... no she doesn't! - 17/07/2011 01:29:52 AM 2293 Views
She thinks both - 18/07/2011 12:22:59 AM 2229 Views
So... - 17/07/2011 07:18:24 PM 2279 Views
No, it's him. - 18/07/2011 12:25:33 AM 2326 Views
Is there any hot sex scenes? I won't be able to read it for a while *NM* - 13/07/2011 02:35:49 PM 1349 Views
One or two, but not all that long ones *NM* - 13/07/2011 02:57:12 PM 1315 Views
Great Ending - 14/07/2011 01:21:53 AM 2530 Views
Really? - 14/07/2011 09:36:01 AM 2461 Views
Re: Really? - 14/07/2011 09:38:34 AM 2120 Views
Re: Great Ending - 18/07/2011 02:05:00 AM 2284 Views
YES! - 14/07/2011 02:38:48 AM 2093 Views
Sorry for the n00b reply, sentiments still apply - 16/07/2011 07:27:43 PM 2255 Views
Re: Sorry for the n00b reply, sentiments still apply - 17/07/2011 12:45:52 AM 2241 Views
I don't know what to think... (spoiler) - 14/07/2011 08:59:39 AM 2480 Views
Probably not. - 14/07/2011 09:19:03 AM 2446 Views
Re: Probably not. - 14/07/2011 03:57:55 PM 2295 Views
I think the two are mixed up. - 14/07/2011 11:23:06 PM 2357 Views
Re: I think the two are mixed up. - 18/07/2011 02:10:29 AM 2194 Views
What made least sense for me as far as that is concerned... - 14/07/2011 11:51:20 AM 2356 Views
They didn't. - 14/07/2011 11:24:53 PM 2401 Views
I see - 15/07/2011 08:28:09 AM 2313 Views
Didn't Jon just announced - 26/07/2011 02:51:07 AM 2232 Views
Something I totally missed first time through - 14/07/2011 09:40:33 AM 2666 Views
Re: Something I totally missed first time through - 16/07/2011 01:24:23 AM 2566 Views
Yep, that's what he said/thought - 17/07/2011 05:02:32 AM 2410 Views
Re: Something I totally missed first time through - 23/07/2011 04:14:38 PM 2191 Views
Well that brings new meaning - 26/07/2011 02:53:18 AM 2162 Views
I'm still not fully done, but about the Reek chapters... - 14/07/2011 04:05:29 PM 2399 Views
Agreed - 14/07/2011 06:18:15 PM 2389 Views
There's another... - 14/07/2011 07:16:11 PM 2199 Views
There's that... - 17/07/2011 01:12:33 AM 2246 Views
It's worse than that... - 17/07/2011 01:26:50 AM 2285 Views
Torture is wrong, and those chapters kinda proved it. *NM* - 26/07/2011 02:53:55 AM 1235 Views
Having finished the book, my thoughts. (Spoilers) - 16/07/2011 08:11:30 AM 2401 Views
Re: Having finished the book, my thoughts. (Spoilers) - 17/07/2011 01:02:10 AM 2306 Views
You put words to my thoughts exactly. - 18/08/2011 09:17:09 PM 2270 Views
It should be re-titled A Jump with Sharks - 17/07/2011 06:00:37 PM 2485 Views
Publishers are more interested in the bottom line. - 18/07/2011 12:31:56 AM 2262 Views
Sadly, I am likely overestimating the intelligence of the readers. - 18/07/2011 03:05:12 AM 2496 Views
I felt bummed by Sanderson's new series. - 18/07/2011 05:25:09 AM 2407 Views
I bought that book but have yet to read it. - 18/07/2011 01:09:15 PM 2201 Views
Re: I bought that book but have yet to read it. - 20/07/2011 06:45:46 AM 2261 Views
You might like this quote from House of Leaves by Mark Z Danielewski. - 11/08/2011 03:42:05 PM 2506 Views
I'm afraid I have to agree with what seems to be the majority opinion... - 17/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 2361 Views
And on a different note entirely: is it me, or did the book need more proofreading? - 17/07/2011 07:39:15 PM 2262 Views
Yeah, I agree. - 18/07/2011 05:59:58 PM 2303 Views
The book really shows it is AFFC part 2 - 26/07/2011 03:00:07 AM 2292 Views
Am I The Only One In Love With Arya's Chapters? *spoilers maybe* - 18/07/2011 02:22:00 AM 2305 Views
I enjoyed them, very solid chapters. - 18/07/2011 12:50:43 PM 2430 Views
Unlike others, I won't start a separate thread to express my thoughts - 19/07/2011 11:21:17 AM 2470 Views
Yeah, I wished there was a way to move them in here! - 19/07/2011 01:42:51 PM 2236 Views
Me too... but going and complaining about them seems so lame, too. - 19/07/2011 07:34:47 PM 2221 Views
I agree with Jens, good balanced review. *NM* - 19/07/2011 07:50:13 PM 1228 Views
I think you let him off too easily. - 20/07/2011 04:19:07 AM 2361 Views
Your review is a little too generous (in my opinion) - 20/07/2011 06:57:45 AM 2549 Views
I find myself both depressed and let down... - 20/07/2011 06:37:16 AM 2661 Views
Am I the only one who really likes... - 20/07/2011 06:04:00 PM 2446 Views
yeh, he is nice... *NM* - 20/07/2011 06:20:13 PM 1226 Views
Davos is probably my favourite - 20/07/2011 09:51:03 PM 2115 Views
The six bodies fired by the trebuchet - 20/07/2011 10:36:16 PM 2285 Views
Yes, I was confused by that too. - 20/07/2011 10:53:35 PM 2249 Views
Probably pale mare victims. Seige warfare via plague - 20/07/2011 11:23:10 PM 2272 Views
Yes, I considered that as well... - 20/07/2011 11:48:32 PM 2234 Views
Have Quentyn's two mates already been sent off a this point? - 21/07/2011 02:03:15 PM 2308 Views
That could be it. *NM* - 21/07/2011 01:43:16 PM 1130 Views
Stannis - 21/07/2011 08:43:40 AM 2243 Views
It's entirely possible Stannis was killed - 21/07/2011 02:09:10 PM 2308 Views
I highly doubt he's dead - 21/07/2011 07:29:59 PM 2298 Views
The bluff makes the most sense: if the Boltons beat Stannis, why does he ask for Theon & Jeyne? - 22/07/2011 12:01:30 AM 2341 Views
Yeah... - 22/07/2011 12:27:53 AM 2211 Views
The Aegon Twist. Something about this doesn't add up. - 21/07/2011 10:43:43 PM 2407 Views
Re: The Aegon Twist. Something about this doesn't add up. - 22/07/2011 05:42:13 PM 2419 Views
Alternatively.. - 22/07/2011 09:13:46 PM 2233 Views
Which gods do you think are "real" in Martin's world? - 22/07/2011 04:32:39 PM 2302 Views
None of them. - 22/07/2011 06:25:19 PM 2197 Views
Is that personal opinion or based on something Martin said? *NM* - 22/07/2011 06:37:57 PM 1229 Views
Opinion - 22/07/2011 07:43:16 PM 2241 Views
I think there are some god's, just given different names. Same with the magic. - 22/07/2011 09:24:51 PM 2215 Views
Lose the apostrophe in the subject line. Then: on what basis do you assume this? - 23/07/2011 02:28:49 AM 2246 Views
You might want to stop wasting time correcting others typos. As for the gods... - 23/07/2011 04:53:59 AM 2151 Views
You might want to stop making them. Particularly glaring ones like that. - 23/07/2011 05:01:03 AM 2316 Views
A typo can't be "glaring"... - 23/07/2011 08:08:51 AM 2214 Views
Sure it can. Glaring: conspicuous or obvious. - 23/07/2011 03:52:57 PM 2214 Views
Morality stems from god? - 22/07/2011 10:47:59 PM 2215 Views
Of course it does - 23/07/2011 02:26:50 AM 2195 Views
On second thought, let's address the issue directly. - 23/07/2011 05:14:59 AM 2324 Views
Perhaps... - 24/07/2011 07:03:24 PM 2227 Views
Its simple... - 24/07/2011 07:37:11 PM 2220 Views
I disagree... - 25/07/2011 04:10:04 AM 2298 Views
Bullshit. - 25/07/2011 05:44:41 AM 2164 Views
Re: Bullshit. - 25/07/2011 06:27:09 AM 2076 Views
Some thoughts... - 25/07/2011 04:54:05 AM 2230 Views
It's not an objective morality. - 25/07/2011 05:41:33 AM 2184 Views
Its not that simple... - 25/07/2011 06:21:39 AM 2265 Views
I don't disagree with most of what you said. I just reach a different conclusion. - 25/07/2011 01:57:31 PM 2157 Views
Well... - 25/07/2011 05:02:45 PM 2194 Views
How then do you deal with the Euthyphro dilemma? - 16/08/2011 01:43:18 PM 2057 Views
Re: Which gods do you think are "real" in Martin's world? - 25/07/2011 02:24:07 PM 2121 Views
Whats the best new POV - 26/07/2011 03:14:05 AM 2243 Views
Barristan - 26/07/2011 12:23:20 PM 2194 Views
Didn't Aeron "Damphair" Greyjoy also only have 2 POVs - 26/07/2011 03:56:57 PM 2305 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 26/07/2011 11:33:11 PM 1273 Views
thirded. - 27/07/2011 04:16:26 PM 2098 Views
Absolutely *NM* - 29/07/2011 02:31:54 AM 1345 Views
Things you missed till they were pointed out via others or via a reread - 26/07/2011 03:23:53 AM 2394 Views
A bit. - 26/07/2011 12:32:32 PM 2348 Views
- 26/07/2011 03:46:54 PM 2277 Views
Re: - 27/07/2011 12:43:43 AM 2281 Views
Martin doesn't have to do anything - 27/07/2011 01:33:36 AM 2314 Views
Re: Martin doesn't have to do anything - 27/07/2011 04:38:19 AM 2176 Views
Re: Martin doesn't have to do anything - 27/07/2011 08:58:55 AM 2104 Views
Re: - 27/07/2011 04:27:18 AM 2323 Views
I like your theory. - 27/07/2011 04:35:22 PM 2343 Views
Interesting... hadn't noticed some of those either. - 26/07/2011 11:32:18 PM 2305 Views
Re: Interesting... hadn't noticed some of those either. - 27/07/2011 02:00:42 AM 2173 Views
Eh? - 29/07/2011 04:44:17 PM 2314 Views
This is complicated. - 31/07/2011 10:43:15 PM 2546 Views
Wait...a woman crowned for beauty was the victorious mystery knight? - 01/08/2011 03:00:49 AM 2205 Views
It is believed the Knight of the Laughing Tree is one of two people - 01/08/2011 04:47:21 AM 2312 Views
Yup. - 02/08/2011 12:03:26 AM 2145 Views
Also... - 02/08/2011 07:17:43 AM 2218 Views
And yet, my huge brain figures it out - 04/08/2011 04:20:06 PM 2247 Views
I've read this scene yesterday and I missed this... - 02/08/2011 07:55:35 AM 2253 Views
Allow me - 05/08/2011 02:14:15 PM 2124 Views
thanks *NM* - 07/08/2011 07:28:21 AM 1206 Views
I thought this was pretty clear - 07/08/2011 05:18:54 PM 2134 Views
Hizdahr a Harpy? Innocent or Not? - 26/07/2011 03:36:56 AM 2534 Views
Interesting idea. - 26/07/2011 12:25:11 PM 2310 Views
Re: Interesting idea. - 27/07/2011 04:25:02 PM 2240 Views
What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? - 26/07/2011 04:13:27 PM 2259 Views
Re: What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? - 27/07/2011 12:49:52 AM 2442 Views
Re: What is happening with the Maesters subplot? Any new leads? - 27/07/2011 03:49:18 AM 2405 Views
Re: A Dance with Dragons discussion thread - 29/07/2011 01:42:57 AM 2433 Views
Okay. I suck. - 29/07/2011 01:50:56 AM 2189 Views
Let me rephrase that... - 29/07/2011 01:54:07 AM 2180 Views
Jon Snow is definitely Azor Ahai. - 29/07/2011 07:31:17 PM 2761 Views
Hmm - 31/07/2011 01:52:03 PM 2659 Views
you are correct - 31/07/2011 11:08:39 PM 2259 Views
Yup. - 31/07/2011 10:49:34 PM 2124 Views
But Shireen is a dragon... - 01/08/2011 12:22:16 AM 2252 Views
I'm uncertain about that - 01/08/2011 05:35:18 AM 2223 Views
True, but I wouldn't read too much into that. - 01/08/2011 11:42:29 PM 2511 Views
Where did he say that? - 02/08/2011 07:18:39 AM 2364 Views
In interviews - 02/08/2011 02:21:28 PM 2323 Views
A little thought about Jon... - 02/08/2011 08:02:34 AM 2385 Views
Excellent point. - 02/08/2011 02:22:22 PM 2320 Views
Am I the only one who thinks... - 09/08/2011 05:16:46 PM 2349 Views
I think Martin's gonna stick to Bran being the only one who does that - 10/08/2011 09:25:12 AM 2425 Views
Anyone have any thoughts as to the purpose of Arya's storyline? - 14/08/2011 06:28:09 PM 2261 Views
She's being trained as an assassin, so the question is who is she going to kill? - 16/08/2011 01:43:12 AM 2182 Views
Jon? - 18/08/2011 09:59:03 PM 2220 Views

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