As innumerable people have pointed out (I know you've seen this, I've pointed it out myself), Martin encourages the perception of "sabbaticals" when he constantly advertises (not just talks about, advertises) the thirty dozen other projects he's working on. You don't agree with that perception - I grasp that. However, you seem to have blinders on as to how other people could arrive at that perception.
This is a fair point, again brought about by dubious communications. The period when all that was being discussed was the merchandise and discussion of the book itself was stamped down on was rather weird, to say the least, and no-one would argue that the majority of fans of the series log into the blog looking for news on ADWD and are not interested in the other projects being discussed.
But at the same time there does need to be some perspective, which is often missing. The author has written precisely two non-ASoIaF-related pieces of fiction since somewhere around 1995. Yeah, he edits other books, but he's been doing that since long before AGoT came out. So why then assume that is the cause of delay on the new book when it was not the cause of delay in the past? It seems at best a superficial argument.
What interests me, as someone who finds the writing process fascinating, is the structural/character/location/timeline issues that have emerged in writing very long epic fantasy series and how different authors deal with them: Robert Jordan by plunging straight ahead and trying to write his way out of it, which led to two or three books of filler that probably weren't needed; Steven Erikson by just ignoring the issues and trying to paper over the inconcsistencies (which by now have become severely distracting); or GRRM by rewriting and rewriting and throwing half the book away and starting again. It would be really cool to see people talk about that, but they rarely do. I guess it's easier to say that the book's late because the author watches a football game once a week instead (as some people have suggested).
That's a strawman argument. Nobody wants "a rushed, crappy book rather than a decent one." Many people don't understand how a book that was "practically finished" in 2005 isn't done four years later. It's hard to convince someone that an extra four years is "rushed."
Again understandable, but also again a problem with communications, such as no-one ever saying that ADWD was 'practically finished' in 2005. The author did say a few times it was 'half' finished, which was really not a good idea (and we knew at the time that was not the case from GRRM's own comments on how much material he had finished), and certainly a major own goal.
As I have said before, this point is key: all of other explanations and news about the book being delayed are only to be found online, in interviews and so on where most people who read the books never get to read them, whilst the indication that the book should be out in 2006 is there in the back of AFFC where 100% of the people who read the series can see it. That's why I said the decision to keep that note in the book even when the book came out in paperback (in 2007, way past the indicated date) was a very bad one.
Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons....
18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM
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It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two.
18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM
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Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM*
18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM
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Titles
18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM
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Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam"
18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM
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Nope, still doesn't work.
18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM
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I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else
18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM
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Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM*
18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM
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I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks
18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM
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Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM*
20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM
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In your opinion, of course. *NM*
20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM
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Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions.
20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM
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I see the reason in that.
20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM
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I haven't even finished reading A Clash of Kings and I'm a touch annoyed by Martin already
20/09/2009 02:35:32 AM
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I can see my rule of not reading series that have not been finished is paying off.
18/09/2009 11:00:37 AM
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Sometimes ...
18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM
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Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder.
18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM
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You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety.
18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM
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Was this well out of line, by any chance?
18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM
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damn you are rude *NM*
18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM
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Gosh. This is pretty tiring.
18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM
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So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly?
19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM
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Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM*
20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM
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No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults.
20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM
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Oh please. Grow some thicker skin.
20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM
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You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been.
20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM
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"It" would have been. "It" was.
20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM
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Nope, I'm someone simply a hell of a lot better informed about the situation then you. Deal with it. *NM*
19/09/2009 02:40:07 AM
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I'd agree with you except for the fact that there was the 'promise'. *NM*
19/09/2009 05:59:21 PM
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Gaiman would just turn the episode into an amazing graphic novel as he died. *NM*
19/09/2009 01:06:30 PM
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That's the most valid point of the argument.
18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM
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Agreed.
19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM
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Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'.
19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM
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But a promise was never made.
19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM
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I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise."
19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM
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Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin
19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM
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This is where the great divide comes into play
19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM
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I think he should take a page out of RJ's book
19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM
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Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise."
19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM
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Exceptions prove the rule...
19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM
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Re: Exceptions prove the rule...
19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM
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