We can quibble over the semantics of what it means to set a date. The fact remains that the man has a poor grasp on what he is able to accomplish in a set amount of time.
But it's a bit silly to expect someone doing purely creative work to be able to give very accurate estimates. It's not really Martin's estimates which are wrong anyway - it was probably a fairly accurate guess at how much time he'd still need to write the number of chapters he thought he'd need to finish each story arc, but it turned out what he had done didn't work as he thought it would, and parts needed re thinking and rewrites. Where Martin seems to have a lot of problems is with planning this series. It's not developping as he originally expected, some of his original planning didn't work and working alternatives forced him to slow down and think. In a series like his, long and complex, it can become a major problem. Obviously Martin isn't just writing DWD, but weighing the repercussions on the outline of the rest of the series, making sure he's not creating himself more narrative/thematic etc. problems later on, and working out solutions before committing himself when he does. It's hard enough doing this at novel length, writers like Martin make it even harder by doing it over multiple volumes.
And I should believe him now when he says it will be finished by July? Sorry, he lost my trust.
There's a huge difference in taking him at face value when he's in the middle of a novel in which he had met many problems before, and the present situation. Bantam is expecting to expand the GRRM readership substantially with the mini series and are putting a lot of money into it (big marketing campaign, redesigned books etc). The massive delays with DWD is a problem - it could discourage many new readers to begin the series, and the delays is the top discussion topic new fans looking on ASOIAF online resources will see. The Bantam people would be absolutely stupid to announce a release date for DWD at this juncture, in effect making the new book and the mini itself the new hot topic online and putting behind the delays, if there was any doubt the book will be finished in time. The fact they can release the book on the heels of the mini series is a terrific marketing opportunity for them, but only as long as they're sure it happens! If it doesn't, it will completely backfire and ruin their efforts - an ice shower for the old fans and the new fans of the mini series looking into the books. Definitely not the sort of comments on ASOIAF wants to see everywhere this summer.
If Martin's lost your trust forget him, trust instead Bantam's business sense. They probably waited as long as necessary to announce this. At this point, they know Martin will be done (if the stories are true, he's putting final touches to the conclusion chapters, there won't be any more structural problems - it's all dealt with, most of the book is not only delivered but even edited and ready to go apparently. In others words, Martin has committed himself.)
We have a date! From George! Rejoice!
03/03/2011 02:10:17 PM
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Thanks for the news. A few questions.
03/03/2011 02:38:35 PM
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Re: Thanks for the news. A few questions.
03/03/2011 03:59:34 PM
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Thanks for the info. Any idea if...
03/03/2011 04:07:44 PM
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Yes (some minor spoilers over which AFFC POV characters are in the book).
03/03/2011 05:44:41 PM
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Chinese Democracy had a date too. Or a couple of them
03/03/2011 03:20:26 PM
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You know, Axl Rose went through my mind when I read this as well...
03/03/2011 03:21:59 PM
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I'm used to waiting, I'll just wait until it comes out on paperback.
03/03/2011 05:11:11 PM
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Are you in the US?
03/03/2011 05:46:06 PM
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I might just wait and go get it at the library, then I'll have a few less years to wait for Winds.
04/03/2011 12:54:45 AM
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Dear God I thought this would never happen
03/03/2011 05:22:03 PM
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Dear God is right, you're alive!
03/03/2011 08:55:33 PM
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Barely
03/03/2011 09:03:46 PM
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Too late. I've already given away my GRRM books to the library and I'm not going to go back to ...
03/03/2011 05:29:09 PM
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Not even a tiny bit of joy? *NM*
03/03/2011 08:56:17 PM
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Nope. Nada. Zilch. GRRM who? Yeah, it's like that. xD *NM*
03/03/2011 09:03:59 PM
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i'm with Bookwyrm, i might pick them up when the series is done, but i gave up on him as an author.
05/03/2011 11:06:14 AM
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Do we have another AFFC in terms of quality and let-down? *NM*
03/03/2011 06:26:42 PM
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I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thought that AFFC was bad.
03/03/2011 08:25:38 PM
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I keep thinking I am the only one who didn't think AFFC was bad *NM*
04/03/2011 09:43:44 AM
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I'm curious: A Question
03/03/2011 08:14:21 PM
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Curiosity killed the cat!
03/03/2011 09:00:20 PM
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It probably won't come out on July 12th.
03/03/2011 08:29:28 PM
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I think it will, so there
03/03/2011 09:01:21 PM
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Re: I think it will, so there
03/03/2011 09:03:05 PM
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If you knew that the flaming-pitchforked angry villagers were en route....
03/03/2011 09:13:28 PM
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I'll believe it when I'm holding a copy in my hands! *NM*
03/03/2011 08:42:08 PM
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And you'll take it from my cold, dead ones
03/03/2011 09:02:25 PM
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I do not mean to gloat
03/03/2011 09:59:48 PM
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Good thinking...
08/03/2011 09:51:22 PM
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Awesome. Amazon better get it delivered very soon after that date. *NM*
03/03/2011 10:11:18 PM
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I think they will.
04/03/2011 12:41:38 PM
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Hm, yes... the real question is, which of the three will deliver the soonest.
04/03/2011 06:44:49 PM
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Savage cabbage!
03/03/2011 11:34:10 PM
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<head explodes> *NM*
04/03/2011 02:50:48 AM
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You made a mess *NM*
04/03/2011 12:43:52 PM
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<still standing body twitches a half-step then slipping on own splattered brain matter> *NM*
06/03/2011 02:27:09 PM
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I just screamed like a Justin Bieber fan. I ain't ashamed, either. *NM*
06/03/2011 04:40:33 PM
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I don't see an ebook version available yet!!!
07/03/2011 08:06:47 AM
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Boo. Though maybe it's just the B&N and Amazon sites that are wrong.
07/03/2011 01:11:23 PM
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I'll read your book George, when it actually comes out
08/03/2011 05:49:33 PM
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Re: I'll read your book George, when it actually comes out
08/03/2011 08:35:36 PM
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Borders is offering a 50% discount in pre-orders and I didn't bite. That's how over GRRM I am. *NM*
10/03/2011 02:51:41 PM
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