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Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom Send a noteboard - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM
We still got half a book. No Jon Snow, no Dany, no Tyrion. Let's face it, any book without the Wall and the North is just...robbed of its Song of Ice and Fire-ness.

The simple fact is that I'm just not all that interested in the Martin series after A Feast for Crows and the extraordinarily long lag between books, which for a series is not good.

Martin doesn't have an obligation to get the books out, but as he drags this out the readers have less interest in buying them. Sales for games and related merchandise will drop as well.

Of course, he might get the next book out before Brandon Sanderson finishes the Jordan series and it might be great. Right about now, though, there are a lot of disillusioned fans losing interest. It doesn't matter what the books were "technically" always going to be called.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons.... DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM 1199 Views
Welcome my son....welcome to the machine...... *NM* Animosity - 18/09/2009 03:06:36 AM 366 Views
lol Nice. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:28:08 AM 326 Views
It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. Tom - 18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM 494 Views
Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM* DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM 402 Views
Titles Werthead - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM 464 Views
Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM 485 Views
Nope, still doesn't work. Werthead - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 456 Views
I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else Tom - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM 420 Views
Re: Nope, still doesn't work. imlad - 18/09/2009 10:46:59 PM 349 Views
Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... Joker - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 379 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* Artsapat - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 369 Views
I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks Tom - 18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM 376 Views
Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 344 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 334 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. Tom - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 331 Views
I see the reason in that. IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM 515 Views
I haven't even finished reading A Clash of Kings and I'm a touch annoyed by Martin already Brian - 20/09/2009 02:35:32 AM 443 Views
He might be a good comic book author, I don't know Tom - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 397 Views
I see where there might be a misunderstanding. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:05:24 AM 449 Views
You're the man, Wert. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 426 Views
I can see my rule of not reading series that have not been finished is paying off. Camilla - 18/09/2009 11:00:37 AM 359 Views
Still ruling WOT, I see. How's that going? *NM* Craig - 18/09/2009 03:26:15 AM 316 Views
Very well, thanks DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:05:16 AM 397 Views
One thing I got to say about Robert Jordan... Crackbrained Asha'man - 18/09/2009 03:40:20 AM 501 Views
Sometimes ... Nate - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 420 Views
I agree! heartbreak - 18/09/2009 01:39:04 PM 411 Views
Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder. Tom - 18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM 459 Views
You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. Werthead - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 418 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? Tom - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 455 Views
damn you are rude *NM* imlad - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 329 Views
Gosh. This is pretty tiring. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM 469 Views
So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly? Werthead - 19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM 423 Views
For several reasons. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 313 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 316 Views
No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults. Werthead - 20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM 360 Views
What would you call a good start? Chas - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 347 Views
Oh please. Grow some thicker skin. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM 360 Views
You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM 389 Views
That is factually incorrect. *NM* Chas - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 318 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. Ghavrel - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 394 Views
Depends on which section of wotmania you're thinking about Larry - 20/09/2009 06:54:00 AM 390 Views
Precisely. *NM* Craig - 20/09/2009 07:30:12 AM 314 Views
I half agree... fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 377 Views
What's with the ad hominems, Tom? Larry - 20/09/2009 06:57:33 AM 356 Views
Nope, I'm someone simply a hell of a lot better informed about the situation then you. Deal with it. *NM* Werthead - 19/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 343 Views
"Than", not "then". Learn English while you're at it. *NM* Tom - 20/09/2009 01:47:56 AM 341 Views
Irony overdose. Again. Tashmere - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 359 Views
WTF? Tom - 20/09/2009 01:49:23 AM 406 Views
fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 03:00:53 AM 397 Views
I'd agree with you except for the fact that there was the 'promise'. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 05:59:21 PM 274 Views
that would be very counter productive imlad - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 350 Views
Depends on what you want. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 342 Views
Gaiman would just turn the episode into an amazing graphic novel as he died. *NM* IndigoAjah - 19/09/2009 01:06:30 PM 338 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. Chas - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 393 Views
Agreed. Werthead - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 375 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. Chas - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 397 Views
But a promise was never made. Werthead - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 386 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Craig - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 359 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Asharak - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 404 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 385 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book fionwe1987 - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 420 Views
Excellent point. Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 371 Views
Re: Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 388 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 293 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Chas - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 436 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 365 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... Craig - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 350 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 347 Views
I think we're winding down here. Craig - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 338 Views
Yeah. Chas - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 402 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 349 Views
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