Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM*
Artsapat Send a noteboard - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM
We got half of a book when he published A Feast for Crows. He gutted half of the plotlines and saved the rest for a second book that is now taking the name of what was supposed to be the last book in the series. The book that was originally going to be A Dance With Dragons is now one or more books with no title as of yet.
A Feast for Crows was a disappointing book because some of peoples' favorite characters just weren't in it. In fact, it's safe to say that the LEAST popular characters were all bunched into A Feast for Crows, while the most popular are all, so he says, in A Dance With Dragons. Now granted, he's taken this long with a book that was supposedly structurally done back when A Feast for Crows came out.
I understand that he's under no obligation, blah, blah, blah, but he has managed to really piss a lot of people off with the way he's handled things, plus the way that he lets people know he goes off to conventions and writes other books, all while his next book languishes.
I'm sure Tor is bitching him out, but unless HBO makes it a condition that he finishes the series in a set time frame in order to pick up the pilot for Ice and Fire, he may just drag the series out for another ten years (or more).
After all, I've been reading Robert Jordan since 1993. 16 years later and I'm waiting for the antepenultimate book in the series and the writer is dead.
A Feast for Crows was a disappointing book because some of peoples' favorite characters just weren't in it. In fact, it's safe to say that the LEAST popular characters were all bunched into A Feast for Crows, while the most popular are all, so he says, in A Dance With Dragons. Now granted, he's taken this long with a book that was supposedly structurally done back when A Feast for Crows came out.
I understand that he's under no obligation, blah, blah, blah, but he has managed to really piss a lot of people off with the way he's handled things, plus the way that he lets people know he goes off to conventions and writes other books, all while his next book languishes.
I'm sure Tor is bitching him out, but unless HBO makes it a condition that he finishes the series in a set time frame in order to pick up the pilot for Ice and Fire, he may just drag the series out for another ten years (or more).
After all, I've been reading Robert Jordan since 1993. 16 years later and I'm waiting for the antepenultimate book in the series and the writer is dead.
The mystery deepens... I think. *MySmiley*
Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons....
18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM
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It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two.
18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM
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Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM*
18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM
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Titles
18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM
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Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam"
18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM
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Nope, still doesn't work.
18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM
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I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else
18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM
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Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM*
18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM
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I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks
18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM
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Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM*
20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM
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In your opinion, of course. *NM*
20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM
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Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions.
20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM
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I see the reason in that.
20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM
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I haven't even finished reading A Clash of Kings and I'm a touch annoyed by Martin already
20/09/2009 02:35:32 AM
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I can see my rule of not reading series that have not been finished is paying off.
18/09/2009 11:00:37 AM
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Sometimes ...
18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM
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Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder.
18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM
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You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety.
18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM
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Was this well out of line, by any chance?
18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM
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damn you are rude *NM*
18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM
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Gosh. This is pretty tiring.
18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM
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So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly?
19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM
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Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM*
20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM
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No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults.
20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM
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Oh please. Grow some thicker skin.
20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM
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You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been.
20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM
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"It" would have been. "It" was.
20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM
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Nope, I'm someone simply a hell of a lot better informed about the situation then you. Deal with it. *NM*
19/09/2009 02:40:07 AM
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I'd agree with you except for the fact that there was the 'promise'. *NM*
19/09/2009 05:59:21 PM
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Gaiman would just turn the episode into an amazing graphic novel as he died. *NM*
19/09/2009 01:06:30 PM
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That's the most valid point of the argument.
18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM
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Agreed.
19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM
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Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'.
19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM
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But a promise was never made.
19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM
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I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise."
19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM
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Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin
19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM
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This is where the great divide comes into play
19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM
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I think he should take a page out of RJ's book
19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM
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Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise."
19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM
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Exceptions prove the rule...
19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM
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