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Ellestra Send a noteboard - 30/11/2010 02:27:03 AM

Oh, you mean how a mere five letters covers something like a dozen or so vowel possibilities, not even taking into account diphthongs? Yeah, that can be a problem (I blame it on the French, actually

) even for native speakers. Might also explain why I prefer Spanish, since the sounds rarely vary (the "r"/"rr" bit being the only deviation that comes to mind).

Back when I was just learning English I remember often thinking 'how you ever come up with writing it this way?' I blame the French too. Germans have much more sensible orthography

I did like what I read last year, but I think a re-read will solidify a few impressions I had at the time. Hopefully in 2-3 weeks. Oh, I learned today from Sapkowski's Spanish publisher that they do hope to publish the second volume sometime in 2011, depending on translator availability. Spanish-Polish translators seem to be in very short supply there and all.

I suppose they don't usually have much work so they probably do it in the spare time between other jobs. That's the sad role of translator, especially of less common languages

Soon. I had hoped to be finished with it already, but I have been laid up these past few days with an increasingly bad sinus infection, so it might not be until toward the weekend that I can finish reading the series.

I hope you get better soon. I hate sinus infections, they usually make my whole head hurt. I'm surprised you can read at all.

He certainly doesn't "sparkle" here, but is very cool despite (or because of that lack?) that

He takes horseshoes from the fire with his bare hands and wears black. How can he not be cool?

Not to mention his "drinking" problem?

I think my favourite part is the event that made him quit

You might find watching paint dry to be a more exciting affair

Come on, it's not that bad, is it?

Interesting information about Sienkiewicz. I've only read Quo Vadis in full (I glanced through the Trilogy when I was in college back in the mid-1990s, but haven't read it in full), but I do recall the translator (from the beginning of the 20th century) utilizing some stylized turns of phrase in that book. Been too long since I last read it. Maybe I'll place an order for the Trilogy in the near future, even though I'm trying to buy very few books over the next three months or so, in order to clear out space in my house.

I think you should be able to get it from library. After all he got Nobel this should made him kind of obligatory library material.

Evolution, just like gravity, works even if you don't believe in it.

Stupidity doesn't hurt but it kills.

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Andrzej Sapkowski, Times of Disdain/Tiempo del odio Larry - 27/11/2010 03:24:22 AM 1265 Views

Bizarre that you would go to a Spanish translation

(A translation note) Tom - 27/11/2010 04:05:28 PM 697 Views

Not really, when that's the only complete translation available in a language I read

Larry - 27/11/2010 06:54:18 PM 759 Views

It's an interesting discussion about that title... "disdain" is indeed somewhat weak. Legolas - 27/11/2010 06:35:14 PM 759 Views

When I have time later tonight, I'll translate the relevant passage near the end of the book Larry - 27/11/2010 06:57:23 PM 788 Views

Re: Andrzej Sapkowski, Times of Disdain/Tiempo del odio wahooka - 27/11/2010 09:37:07 PM 831 Views

The main reason why I lean toward "hatred" is later on Larry - 27/11/2010 09:43:43 PM 799 Views

Yeah, there may be a slight difference between Czech and English meaning of the word wahooka - 28/11/2010 10:49:23 AM 766 Views

Makes sense to me Larry - 28/11/2010 07:13:08 PM 826 Views

Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post Larry - 28/11/2010 02:35:38 AM 753 Views

Hm. I'd actually say it makes me more inclined to think "contempt" is right after all. Legolas - 28/11/2010 10:50:09 AM 829 Views

I didn't quote what happened immediately afterward, as that is a major spoiler Larry - 28/11/2010 07:16:39 PM 721 Views

Fair points.

*NM* Legolas - 29/11/2010 12:26:28 AM 394 Views

Re: Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post wahooka - 28/11/2010 11:03:18 AM 757 Views

Re: Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post Ellestra - 29/11/2010 01:12:58 AM 626 Views

Larry - 29/11/2010 04:53:12 AM 765 Views

I find it funny that all the discussion in the thread is about the best translation of the title. Stephen - 28/11/2010 10:17:44 PM 704 Views

Actually, it also plays a key role in the action of this book Larry - 29/11/2010 12:47:19 AM 852 Views

Oh, I'm just surprised one word can be that important Stephen - 29/11/2010 01:03:48 PM 652 Views

Time of Contempt is closest to original meaning Ellestra - 28/11/2010 11:42:56 PM 813 Views

Perhaps, but there's been a weakening of "contempt" in English over the past few generations Larry - 28/11/2010 11:55:16 PM 884 Views

Re: Perhaps, but there's been a weakening of "contempt" in English over the past few generations Ellestra - 29/11/2010 12:47:12 AM 837 Views

True, to a large extent at least Larry - 29/11/2010 04:57:00 AM 1071 Views

You made me want to go and reread this again Ellestra - 29/11/2010 12:07:46 AM 807 Views

I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow Larry - 29/11/2010 12:32:23 AM 897 Views

Re: I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow Ellestra - 29/11/2010 01:05:30 AM 838 Views

Re: I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow Larry - 29/11/2010 05:02:48 AM 831 Views

Re: I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow Ellestra - 29/11/2010 04:39:02 PM 862 Views

Still, seeing as many as six consonants together can be intimidating for some of us

Larry - 29/11/2010 11:37:22 PM 876 Views

Re: Still, seeing as many as six consonants together can be intimidating for some of us

Ellestra - 30/11/2010 02:27:03 AM 837 Views

I refuse to give the Germans credit when it comes to language and grammar issues!

Larry - 30/11/2010 03:04:30 AM 1003 Views

I don't see why; except maybe page long nouns

Ellestra - 30/11/2010 04:22:37 PM 1050 Views

I dunno, some people dig saying "Machtübernahme" and "Größerdeutschland"

Larry - 30/11/2010 05:53:43 PM 865 Views

Hey those are short Ellestra - 01/12/2010 03:44:42 AM 887 Views

I REALLY can't wait for this to come out in English dacole - 30/11/2010 04:50:56 AM 819 Views

Re: I REALLY can't wait for this to come out in English Ellestra - 30/11/2010 03:45:33 PM 829 Views

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<quote id="174703">Oh, you mean how a mere five letters covers something like a dozen or so vowel possibilities, not even taking into account diphthongs?  Yeah, that can be a problem (I blame it on the French, actually :P) even for native speakers.  Might also explain why I prefer Spanish, since the sounds rarely vary (the "r"/"rr" bit being the only deviation that comes to mind).</quote>

Back when I was just learning English I remember often thinking 'how you ever come up with writing it this way?' I blame the French too. Germans have much more sensible orthography :P

<quote id="174703">I did like what I read last year, but I think a re-read will solidify a few impressions I had at the time.  Hopefully in 2-3 weeks.  Oh, I learned today from Sapkowski's Spanish publisher that they do hope to publish the second volume sometime in 2011, depending on translator availability.  Spanish-Polish translators seem to be in very short supply there and all.</quote>

I suppose they don't usually have much work so they probably do it in the spare time between other jobs. That's the sad role of translator, especially of less common languages :(

<quote id="174703">Soon.  I had hoped to be finished with it already, but I have been laid up these past few days with an increasingly bad sinus infection, so it might not be until toward the weekend that I can finish reading the series.</quote>

I hope you get better soon. I hate sinus infections, they usually make my whole head hurt. I'm surprised you can read at all.

<quote id="174703"><quote id="174552"><quote id="174446">He certainly doesn't "sparkle" here, but is very cool despite (or because of that lack?) that :P</quote></quote></quote>
<quote id="174703"><quote id="174552">He takes horseshoes from the fire with his bare hands and wears black. How can he not be cool? :P </quote></quote>
<quote id="174703">Not to mention his "drinking" problem? ;)</quote>

I think my favourite part is the event that made him quit :P

<quote id="174703">You might find watching paint dry to be a more exciting affair ;)</quote>

Come on, it's not that bad, is it?

<quote id="174703">Interesting information about Sienkiewicz.  I've only read <i>Quo Vadis</i> in full (I glanced through the Trilogy when I was in college back in the mid-1990s, but haven't read it in full), but I do recall the translator (from the beginning of the 20th century) utilizing some stylized turns of phrase in that book.  Been too long since I last read it.  Maybe I'll place an order for the Trilogy in the near future, even though I'm trying to buy very few books over the next three months or so, in order to clear out space in my house.</quote>

I think you should be able to get it from library. After all he got Nobel this should made him kind of obligatory library material.
</quote>

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