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I didn't quote what happened immediately afterward, as that is a major spoiler Larry Send a noteboard - 28/11/2010 07:16:39 PM
Y su odio.

Eran hijos de los tiempos del odio. Y para los demás sólo odio tenian. Para ellos solamente contaba la fuerza. La habilidad en el manejo del arma que adquirieron pronto en los caminos. La decisión. El caballo rápido y la espada afilada.

With those sentences following it about only strength and power and ability with weapons counting for them, it makes more sense to me that they have "only contempt" for the others, than "only hate". And there's the passage before that where their arrogance and self-confidence is discussed, there too "contempt" seems more logical than "hatred".

Contempt can be a very strong and very ugly emotion, if you ask me, perhaps even worse than hatred, as it shows less respect for the other, dehumanizes him.


I think "contempt" is too weak of a word to describe this emotion, one that is akin to what spilled out on Kristalnacht. As I said above just now, perhaps "despite" would be a more apt description of that tenuous middle ground between mostly-passive (in regards to overt action) contempt/disdain and the more active hatred. It really is close to a loathing that's been depicted in this scene, a loathing of other groups/races that continues throughout this series.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Andrzej Sapkowski, Times of Disdain/Tiempo del odio Larry - 27/11/2010 03:24:22 AM 1265 Views
Bizarre that you would go to a Spanish translation (A translation note) Tom - 27/11/2010 04:05:28 PM 697 Views
Not really, when that's the only complete translation available in a language I read Larry - 27/11/2010 06:54:18 PM 759 Views
It's an interesting discussion about that title... "disdain" is indeed somewhat weak. Legolas - 27/11/2010 06:35:14 PM 759 Views
When I have time later tonight, I'll translate the relevant passage near the end of the book Larry - 27/11/2010 06:57:23 PM 788 Views
Re: Andrzej Sapkowski, Times of Disdain/Tiempo del odio wahooka - 27/11/2010 09:37:07 PM 831 Views
The main reason why I lean toward "hatred" is later on Larry - 27/11/2010 09:43:43 PM 799 Views
Yeah, there may be a slight difference between Czech and English meaning of the word wahooka - 28/11/2010 10:49:23 AM 766 Views
Makes sense to me Larry - 28/11/2010 07:13:08 PM 826 Views
Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post Larry - 28/11/2010 02:35:38 AM 753 Views
Hm. I'd actually say it makes me more inclined to think "contempt" is right after all. Legolas - 28/11/2010 10:50:09 AM 829 Views
I didn't quote what happened immediately afterward, as that is a major spoiler Larry - 28/11/2010 07:16:39 PM 722 Views
Fair points. *NM* Legolas - 29/11/2010 12:26:28 AM 394 Views
Re: Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post wahooka - 28/11/2010 11:03:18 AM 757 Views
Re: Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post Ellestra - 29/11/2010 01:12:58 AM 626 Views
Larry - 29/11/2010 04:53:12 AM 765 Views
I find it funny that all the discussion in the thread is about the best translation of the title. Stephen - 28/11/2010 10:17:44 PM 704 Views
Actually, it also plays a key role in the action of this book Larry - 29/11/2010 12:47:19 AM 852 Views
Oh, I'm just surprised one word can be that important Stephen - 29/11/2010 01:03:48 PM 652 Views
Time of Contempt is closest to original meaning Ellestra - 28/11/2010 11:42:56 PM 813 Views
Perhaps, but there's been a weakening of "contempt" in English over the past few generations Larry - 28/11/2010 11:55:16 PM 884 Views
Re: Perhaps, but there's been a weakening of "contempt" in English over the past few generations Ellestra - 29/11/2010 12:47:12 AM 838 Views
True, to a large extent at least Larry - 29/11/2010 04:57:00 AM 1072 Views
You made me want to go and reread this again Ellestra - 29/11/2010 12:07:46 AM 807 Views
I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow Larry - 29/11/2010 12:32:23 AM 897 Views
Re: I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow Ellestra - 29/11/2010 01:05:30 AM 838 Views
Re: I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow Larry - 29/11/2010 05:02:48 AM 831 Views
Re: I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow Ellestra - 29/11/2010 04:39:02 PM 863 Views
Still, seeing as many as six consonants together can be intimidating for some of us Larry - 29/11/2010 11:37:22 PM 876 Views
Re: Still, seeing as many as six consonants together can be intimidating for some of us Ellestra - 30/11/2010 02:27:03 AM 837 Views
I refuse to give the Germans credit when it comes to language and grammar issues! Larry - 30/11/2010 03:04:30 AM 1003 Views
I don't see why; except maybe page long nouns Ellestra - 30/11/2010 04:22:37 PM 1050 Views
I dunno, some people dig saying "Machtübernahme" and "Größerdeutschland" Larry - 30/11/2010 05:53:43 PM 866 Views
Hey those are short Ellestra - 01/12/2010 03:44:42 AM 887 Views
I REALLY can't wait for this to come out in English dacole - 30/11/2010 04:50:56 AM 819 Views
Re: I REALLY can't wait for this to come out in English Ellestra - 30/11/2010 03:45:33 PM 830 Views
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