The main reason why I lean toward "hatred" is later on
Larry Send a noteboard - 27/11/2010 09:43:43 PM
It's ?as Opovržení in the Czech translation. ?as means time, but it can also mean times when used as it is in this title. Opovržení is either contempt or disdain. I personally like the sound of Times of Disdain better than Times of Contempt, but there may be some semantic nuances or differences here that I'm not aware of.
I think that hatred or odio as it is used in the Spanish translation is too strong, and differs from the original Polish title, but then again I may be wrong. Polish and Czech are mutually intelligible to some extent, but the level of mutual intelligibility isn't strong enough for me to say for certain which is the best translation. I think we would need somebody from Poland for that.
I think that hatred or odio as it is used in the Spanish translation is too strong, and differs from the original Polish title, but then again I may be wrong. Polish and Czech are mutually intelligible to some extent, but the level of mutual intelligibility isn't strong enough for me to say for certain which is the best translation. I think we would need somebody from Poland for that.
With what happens toward the end of the series, if I didn't misread those few pages at the end of The Lady of the Lake that I glanced at to see how things got to a certain point just before the very end. "Disdain" and "contempt" are a bit too passive in English for that, although I'll agree that "hatred" perhaps goes a slight bit too much in the other, more active, direction.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie
Je suis méchant.
Je suis méchant.
Andrzej Sapkowski, Times of Disdain/Tiempo del odio
27/11/2010 03:24:22 AM
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Bizarre that you would go to a Spanish translation (A translation note)
27/11/2010 04:05:28 PM
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Not really, when that's the only complete translation available in a language I read
27/11/2010 06:54:18 PM
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It's an interesting discussion about that title... "disdain" is indeed somewhat weak.
27/11/2010 06:35:14 PM
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When I have time later tonight, I'll translate the relevant passage near the end of the book
27/11/2010 06:57:23 PM
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Re: Andrzej Sapkowski, Times of Disdain/Tiempo del odio
27/11/2010 09:37:07 PM
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The main reason why I lean toward "hatred" is later on
27/11/2010 09:43:43 PM
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Yeah, there may be a slight difference between Czech and English meaning of the word
28/11/2010 10:49:23 AM
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Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post
28/11/2010 02:35:38 AM
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Hm. I'd actually say it makes me more inclined to think "contempt" is right after all.
28/11/2010 10:50:09 AM
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I didn't quote what happened immediately afterward, as that is a major spoiler
28/11/2010 07:16:39 PM
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Re: Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post
28/11/2010 11:03:18 AM
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Re: Now for that passage near the end of the book I said I'd post
29/11/2010 01:12:58 AM
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I find it funny that all the discussion in the thread is about the best translation of the title.
28/11/2010 10:17:44 PM
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Time of Contempt is closest to original meaning
28/11/2010 11:42:56 PM
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Perhaps, but there's been a weakening of "contempt" in English over the past few generations
28/11/2010 11:55:16 PM
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Re: Perhaps, but there's been a weakening of "contempt" in English over the past few generations
29/11/2010 12:47:12 AM
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You made me want to go and reread this again
29/11/2010 12:07:46 AM
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I'm in the midst of re-reading The Tower of the Swallow
29/11/2010 12:32:23 AM
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29/11/2010 01:05:30 AM
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29/11/2010 05:02:48 AM
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29/11/2010 04:39:02 PM
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Still, seeing as many as six consonants together can be intimidating for some of us
29/11/2010 11:37:22 PM
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Re: Still, seeing as many as six consonants together can be intimidating for some of us
30/11/2010 02:27:03 AM
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I refuse to give the Germans credit when it comes to language and grammar issues!
30/11/2010 03:04:30 AM
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I don't see why; except maybe page long nouns
30/11/2010 04:22:37 PM
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I dunno, some people dig saying "Machtübernahme" and "Größerdeutschland"
30/11/2010 05:53:43 PM
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