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Like hell it's about authorial intent. Tom Send a noteboard - 21/11/2010 05:40:22 AM
It's clearly not just about authorial intent. Authorial intent is only one of many problems in translating. When poetry gets translated these other factors are even more apparent. Word flow, the sound of certain phrases and how a translation is stylistically executed are as important, or even more important, than simple considerations of authorial intent.

The "broken" bridle point in the article is more a question of how cluttered and encumbered a simple French sentence should become in English. The dancing Salome point is a question of whether or not to explain a cultural reference via footnote (and break the scene flow), explain it by changing what is written or to just let it slip by the reader's attention and lose a bit of metaphor.

Most of the questions raised in the article have little to do with intent and much more to do with replicating stylistic devices (or not) and trying to find the right balance between literal translation and sentence flow in the second language. Did you read the article or just skim it?
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Julian Barnes on translation - 18/11/2010 05:49:37 PM 948 Views
That was a long article. - 19/11/2010 07:05:12 PM 543 Views
Re: That was a long article. - 19/11/2010 09:59:24 PM 528 Views
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And I didn't order from France. It's a US-based company that I bought it from. *NM* - 20/11/2010 05:54:55 PM 221 Views
Oh, that'd cut down on delivery costs a fair bit, then. *NM* - 20/11/2010 06:01:46 PM 228 Views
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Re: Oh Authorial intent. - 21/11/2010 02:07:27 AM 630 Views
Like hell it's about authorial intent. - 21/11/2010 05:40:22 AM 566 Views
Re: I didn't even read it, I guessed based on the author's initials. - 21/11/2010 01:37:40 PM 752 Views
So I take it you missed the whole part about Nabokov's translation of Eugene Onegin. - 21/11/2010 03:28:14 PM 507 Views
Re: Yes, I missed all of that. Such a conclusion clearly follows from my previous response. *NM* - 21/11/2010 03:57:16 PM 313 Views
Actually it does. Your responses are just cheap tricks, not discussions. *NM* - 21/11/2010 04:44:21 PM 230 Views
Re: Cheap tricks? - 21/11/2010 10:45:39 PM 602 Views
Barnes' article has little to do with authorial intent - 21/11/2010 11:37:25 PM 543 Views
Why didn't you translate je ne sais quoi? - 21/11/2010 11:46:23 PM 596 Views
Because I didn't feel like it? - 22/11/2010 01:14:31 AM 570 Views
Well, I think you started the snarky replies. - 21/11/2010 11:42:33 PM 516 Views

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