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Re: Spoilers. Camilla Send a noteboard - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM
The description of Snape's pain as similar to that of the dog in the burning house is perhaps a little unsubtle, but it is quite a powerful clue. I am still a little baffled that anyone could think that Snape was bad. Even after the killing of Dumbledore, there are so many indications in the text. Not to mention that "Snape is evil" would be a wholly unsatisfactory ending. If it was going to turn out that way, it could not have been revealed in the second last book. In fact, I think it has been impossible since book 1.

Yeah, I totally agree. Snape being genuinely evil would have been extremely problematic, after the way Harry's erroneous suspicions have been proven wrong in book one. Dumbledore is fallible - the main argument for Snape being truly evil was his quote about being smarter than most men and thus making bigger mistakes, as I recall - but this would've made him a complete fool, and we can't have that. Besides, it would've been way too obvious, what with the scene with Narcissa and Bellatrix, and then later the one with Draco. If he really had been evil, we'd have had more conflicting evidence so that his turning out to be evil would have come as a shock.


Indeed.

The role of Regulus. I know bragging is not really the done thing, but I am still terribly proud of having worked out the identity of R.A.B immediately when I first read the book. Perhaps it wasn't as hard to work out as I thought at the time. It is not a buried clue, after all. It is just a matter of recognising the letters. Still….

It's interesting when you think about it. Regulus is sort of like Malfoy, but even his own brother thinks he's an unrepentant Death Eater. And Regulus makes me think of Karkarov, which makes me wonder why the Order didn't offer him protection in return for information. Or perhaps in return for nothing - Snape already provided the information, after all.


True. Although I don't think Sirius had much contact with his brother -- he broke from his family, after all. But it is, perhaps, a little like Harry figuring out that Dudley is trying to be nice. Except Harry and Dudley are still living in the same house, so his opportunities are greater.

Protect Karkarov, you mean? Or Regulus?
I think they probably would have if Karkarov had gone to Dumbledore and asked for protection. But he chose to run.

Impressive that Regulus figured out, all on his own, what as far as we know nobody else except Dumbledore - much later - figured out.


Very true.

The lull, or the feeling of wrapping things up and clearing the board here … is that just me? Dumbledore's funeral feels a little like a recap. No, that isn't the right word. An overview of the main points. Something is ending here, and the next book is very different. There is a narrowing of the focus.

Yeah, this is definitely a bit of a wrapping up of the series so far - the years in Hogwarts - and a sneak peek ahead into what the next book will be. And some rather dark stuff there: "He could not let anybody else stand between him and Voldemort; he must abandon for ever the illusion he ought to have lost at the age of one: that the shelter of a parent's arms meant that nothing could hurt him". Particularly that "ought to have lost at the age of one". For the hero of a YA fantasy series, Harry is really quite dark in some ways.


Indeed.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 2713 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1569 Views
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Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 1802 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1553 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1610 Views
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*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1485 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 919 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 865 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1651 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 1827 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 1833 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 1796 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 1788 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 1885 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1574 Views
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Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1707 Views
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Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1658 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 925 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 1783 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1661 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1706 Views
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Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1499 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1490 Views
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Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 862 Views
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Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1497 Views
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More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1501 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1498 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1680 Views
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Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1537 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1702 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1599 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1685 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1677 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 865 Views
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Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1536 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1546 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 886 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1505 Views
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Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 1773 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1634 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1472 Views
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~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1521 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1569 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1631 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1672 Views
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The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1616 Views
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Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1645 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 712 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1483 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1618 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1467 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1662 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1581 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1532 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1602 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1590 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1554 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1553 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1827 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1703 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 753 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1596 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 881 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 867 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1571 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1547 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1578 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1729 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1713 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 681 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1598 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1745 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1619 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1624 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 717 Views
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Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1681 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1537 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1720 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1587 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1650 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1464 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 853 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 940 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1730 Views
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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1564 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 1801 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1656 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1621 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1318 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1552 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1571 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1499 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1648 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 750 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1565 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1652 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 647 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 972 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1463 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1709 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1790 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 753 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1785 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 770 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 1865 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 893 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1624 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1650 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1666 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 781 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1588 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1643 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1652 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1488 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1653 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1629 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 768 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1479 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1317 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1532 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 796 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1574 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1793 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1559 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 893 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 729 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 860 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1506 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1556 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1657 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1647 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1612 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1762 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 1899 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 742 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1628 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 1822 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1523 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1647 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1627 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 1865 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2102 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1637 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1742 Views

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