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Re: Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) Camilla Send a noteboard - 13/11/2010 09:35:04 AM
Snape: The scene where Harry catches up with him is again delightful. He keeps him from using an unforgivable curse (an not for Snape's own sake alone, I think). And it is only when Harry calls him a coward that he reacts with anger (and, considering what he has just been through, you cannot really blame him at that point). And it is when that is repeated (mixed with the attribution of blame for the death of Lily (Harry refers to his father, but that entails the other), which probably makes it worse) that he really loses it. He intervenes to stop Harry being tortured, and he keeps instructing him all the way. How anyone could actually believe Snape was a bad guy is beyond me.

The part with Snape stopping Harry from being tortured, that is. The excuses he gives for that - and for running away immediately - aren't very convincing, considering the Ministry doesn't seem to find out until a good while later when Slughorn tells them. Good thing those other Death Eaters aren't the brightest cookies in the box and don't notice that Snape is doing what he can to protect Harry and the students of Hogwarts.


I really like how he takes on that role after Dumbledore's death. As protector of the students, that is. Shadowy, secret protector, but still. It is as if he is taking on part of Dumbledore's role.

I also hadn't realized that Snape is blocking Harry's non-verbal spells by using his Legilimency skills.


Hah. Neither had I! That makes sense. I thought he just recognised the movement because it was his spell.

Lupin evidently knew nothing about Lily's connection to Snape. Makes one wonder if James knew... well, after they got together, that is, he almost certainly didn't before.


Yes.

It is one of Rowling's best scenes emotionally. Makes me all the more annoyed they butchered it beyond recognition in the movie. It was the defining moment for Snape, essential for the depth of his character, and they just had Rickman do the normal sneering Snape. I really, really wonder why. Was it just because they figure the audience (those who haven't read the books, anyway) consists of idiots?


Yes! Although I suspect the films are made by people who do not read carefully. I am fairly sure they only flicked through it looking for what happened, and didn't take the time to think about the reasons for it.

Lupin: the description of his reaction to the news of Dumbledore's death is surprisingly effective. The exclamation, disbelief, the utter grief. I believe it. It is not fancy, a masterpiece of prose. But it is again that snapshot quality. The description of actions, then Harry's gloss. Lupin is the one who has continually relied on Dumbledore the most, I think. I mean, they all do, but there is something extra there. Dumbledore is the one who takes him in and allows him to form part of wizarding society in a way he would not otherwise have been able to do. It is he who provides him with the opportunity to have friends. He is the one who gives him a job, and it is to avoid giving him trouble that Lupin leaves. There is a very strong connection there, and I cannot help thinking that the idea of Dumbledore is what makes it possible for Lupin to go under cover. And then this.

Yes, makes sense. Same with Hagrid to some extent, though of course Hagrid is more emotional in general.

And, all right, so the scene with Tonks is fine. That does not mean I am convinced.

You should be. :P They're a perfectly credible couple.


Piffle.

The Order: their shock at Snape's apparent treachery is of course understandable, and McGonagall's almost fainting made it very apparent. But I am a little surprised that they are all so ready to stop trusting Dumbledore's judgement now he is dead. Yesyes, being killed by Snape does look very bad, but still. Then again, if any of them had as much as uttered any suggestion that there might be another explanation, I suspect Harry would have gone mental.

It is kind of sad that the Order so blindly relies on Dumbledore, accepting Snape because of him and then not doing it anymore once Dumbledore is dead. Of course, that all works out, but it's kind of unusual to have "the good side" function in such a hierarchical way with nearly everyone cut out of the loop, and following their lone leader. And then of course Harry continues that, he confides in the rest of the Trio, but not the Order. For all that he does love and trust many people, in the end his modus operandi is not so different from Voldemort's, confiding in very few people and thus risking that it'll all come falling down if he should die or be captured. That has to make things extremely frustrating for everybody else in Britain who wants to oppose Voldemort, particularly after the Ministry takeover.


Yes, although it makes sense in a world where the evil guys can break so easily into your mind, I think.

Mrs Weasley and Fleur: one of Fleur's finest moments, I think. And it re-establishes her character, taking us back to who she was in the fourth book (at least in my mind) -- seeing her through the distorting lens of Harry via the Weasley women has suspended the strong part of her character, but here it is back. "I am beautiful enough for the both of us" is an excellent line.

It's a bit of a silly scene, because the whole prejudice against her was a bit silly from the start. The reader never thought that Fleur was a shallow bitch - or at least not anymore after getting to know her in book four - so it's not exactly a shock or noteworthy that she reacts like that. But good that the Weasley (+ Granger) women finally come to their senses, I suppose.

Scrimgeour: not his best move talking to Harry at the funeral. He isn't quite a diplomat.

Does he or his Ministry actually do anything useful during the entirety of his term in office? I'm having a hard time thinking of anything. Rather pathetic. But then of course we couldn't have that, the hero has to get the credit for defeating the villain. And since the story is set in a modern universe, that has to mean either the hero is part of the government/armed forces/secret service/whatever, or the government/etc. is completely incompetent. I don't suppose Rowling had much of a choice.


Well, we don't know what he does behind the scenes, of course. But yes, his efforts seem to be more directed towards giving the appearance of progress than to progress itself.

Ginny: I am suprised at how accepting she is. His point is a good one, of course, but still.

Yeah, generally the whole noble thing is a bit silly and women rightly quash it, but here he does have a point. I'm not sure breaking up makes much sense, but temporarily severing contact does, so I guess it amounts to the same thing either way.


I suppose it is a matter of "don't wait for me".
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 3327 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1960 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 2099 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 2186 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1943 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 2010 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 2142 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1873 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 1152 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 1101 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 2031 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 2217 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 2232 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 2208 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 2218 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 2279 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1961 Views
Re: I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 08:33:44 PM 2108 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 1027 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 2116 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 2063 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 2042 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 1164 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 2142 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 2225 Views
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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM 1741 Views
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On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 2077 Views
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Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 2013 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1923 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 2027 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 2084 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 1026 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1881 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1871 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 1195 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 1122 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 2138 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1916 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1901 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1920 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1947 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 2094 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 2010 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1955 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 2104 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 2004 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 2082 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 2077 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 2134 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1970 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 1111 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 2043 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1981 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 1997 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1929 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 1138 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1894 Views
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Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 1979 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 1181 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 1133 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 2204 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 2013 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1854 Views
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~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1911 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1934 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 2034 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 2073 Views
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The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 2011 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1934 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 2082 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 939 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1913 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 2002 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1870 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 2101 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1978 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1962 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1976 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1981 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1966 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1976 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 2252 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 2091 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 990 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1985 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 1118 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 1125 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 2021 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1948 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1994 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 2114 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 2105 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 899 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 2006 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 2148 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 2019 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 2030 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 959 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 2140 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 2054 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1948 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 2161 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1991 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 2077 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1871 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 1113 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 1183 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 2134 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1956 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1975 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 2197 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 2099 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 2041 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1696 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1955 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1981 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1929 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 2058 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 1000 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1971 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 2043 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 876 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 1230 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1860 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 2105 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 2185 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 988 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 2206 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 1009 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 2240 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 1136 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 2051 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 2082 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 2080 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 1009 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1992 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 2029 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 2093 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1872 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 2034 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 2063 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 1019 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1879 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1727 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1929 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 1017 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1965 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 2217 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1937 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 1141 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 963 Views
Snape, Lupin, Hermione & Ron, the Order, Mrs Weasley & Fleur, Luna & Neville, Scrimgeour, Ginny *DH* - 09/11/2010 02:20:01 PM 1925 Views
Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) - 13/11/2010 12:03:16 AM 2141 Views
Re: Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) - 13/11/2010 09:35:04 AM 2081 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 1085 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1911 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1956 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 2060 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 2038 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 2005 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 2167 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 2304 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 991 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 2028 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 2243 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1907 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 2059 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 2013 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 2249 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2499 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 2042 Views
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