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Re: Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) Camilla Send a noteboard - 13/11/2010 09:35:04 AM
Snape: The scene where Harry catches up with him is again delightful. He keeps him from using an unforgivable curse (an not for Snape's own sake alone, I think). And it is only when Harry calls him a coward that he reacts with anger (and, considering what he has just been through, you cannot really blame him at that point). And it is when that is repeated (mixed with the attribution of blame for the death of Lily (Harry refers to his father, but that entails the other), which probably makes it worse) that he really loses it. He intervenes to stop Harry being tortured, and he keeps instructing him all the way. How anyone could actually believe Snape was a bad guy is beyond me.

The part with Snape stopping Harry from being tortured, that is. The excuses he gives for that - and for running away immediately - aren't very convincing, considering the Ministry doesn't seem to find out until a good while later when Slughorn tells them. Good thing those other Death Eaters aren't the brightest cookies in the box and don't notice that Snape is doing what he can to protect Harry and the students of Hogwarts.


I really like how he takes on that role after Dumbledore's death. As protector of the students, that is. Shadowy, secret protector, but still. It is as if he is taking on part of Dumbledore's role.

I also hadn't realized that Snape is blocking Harry's non-verbal spells by using his Legilimency skills.


Hah. Neither had I! That makes sense. I thought he just recognised the movement because it was his spell.

Lupin evidently knew nothing about Lily's connection to Snape. Makes one wonder if James knew... well, after they got together, that is, he almost certainly didn't before.


Yes.

It is one of Rowling's best scenes emotionally. Makes me all the more annoyed they butchered it beyond recognition in the movie. It was the defining moment for Snape, essential for the depth of his character, and they just had Rickman do the normal sneering Snape. I really, really wonder why. Was it just because they figure the audience (those who haven't read the books, anyway) consists of idiots?


Yes! Although I suspect the films are made by people who do not read carefully. I am fairly sure they only flicked through it looking for what happened, and didn't take the time to think about the reasons for it.

Lupin: the description of his reaction to the news of Dumbledore's death is surprisingly effective. The exclamation, disbelief, the utter grief. I believe it. It is not fancy, a masterpiece of prose. But it is again that snapshot quality. The description of actions, then Harry's gloss. Lupin is the one who has continually relied on Dumbledore the most, I think. I mean, they all do, but there is something extra there. Dumbledore is the one who takes him in and allows him to form part of wizarding society in a way he would not otherwise have been able to do. It is he who provides him with the opportunity to have friends. He is the one who gives him a job, and it is to avoid giving him trouble that Lupin leaves. There is a very strong connection there, and I cannot help thinking that the idea of Dumbledore is what makes it possible for Lupin to go under cover. And then this.

Yes, makes sense. Same with Hagrid to some extent, though of course Hagrid is more emotional in general.

And, all right, so the scene with Tonks is fine. That does not mean I am convinced.

You should be. :P They're a perfectly credible couple.


Piffle.

The Order: their shock at Snape's apparent treachery is of course understandable, and McGonagall's almost fainting made it very apparent. But I am a little surprised that they are all so ready to stop trusting Dumbledore's judgement now he is dead. Yesyes, being killed by Snape does look very bad, but still. Then again, if any of them had as much as uttered any suggestion that there might be another explanation, I suspect Harry would have gone mental.

It is kind of sad that the Order so blindly relies on Dumbledore, accepting Snape because of him and then not doing it anymore once Dumbledore is dead. Of course, that all works out, but it's kind of unusual to have "the good side" function in such a hierarchical way with nearly everyone cut out of the loop, and following their lone leader. And then of course Harry continues that, he confides in the rest of the Trio, but not the Order. For all that he does love and trust many people, in the end his modus operandi is not so different from Voldemort's, confiding in very few people and thus risking that it'll all come falling down if he should die or be captured. That has to make things extremely frustrating for everybody else in Britain who wants to oppose Voldemort, particularly after the Ministry takeover.


Yes, although it makes sense in a world where the evil guys can break so easily into your mind, I think.

Mrs Weasley and Fleur: one of Fleur's finest moments, I think. And it re-establishes her character, taking us back to who she was in the fourth book (at least in my mind) -- seeing her through the distorting lens of Harry via the Weasley women has suspended the strong part of her character, but here it is back. "I am beautiful enough for the both of us" is an excellent line.

It's a bit of a silly scene, because the whole prejudice against her was a bit silly from the start. The reader never thought that Fleur was a shallow bitch - or at least not anymore after getting to know her in book four - so it's not exactly a shock or noteworthy that she reacts like that. But good that the Weasley (+ Granger) women finally come to their senses, I suppose.

Scrimgeour: not his best move talking to Harry at the funeral. He isn't quite a diplomat.

Does he or his Ministry actually do anything useful during the entirety of his term in office? I'm having a hard time thinking of anything. Rather pathetic. But then of course we couldn't have that, the hero has to get the credit for defeating the villain. And since the story is set in a modern universe, that has to mean either the hero is part of the government/armed forces/secret service/whatever, or the government/etc. is completely incompetent. I don't suppose Rowling had much of a choice.


Well, we don't know what he does behind the scenes, of course. But yes, his efforts seem to be more directed towards giving the appearance of progress than to progress itself.

Ginny: I am suprised at how accepting she is. His point is a good one, of course, but still.

Yeah, generally the whole noble thing is a bit silly and women rightly quash it, but here he does have a point. I'm not sure breaking up makes much sense, but temporarily severing contact does, so I guess it amounts to the same thing either way.


I suppose it is a matter of "don't wait for me".
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 2747 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1594 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 1716 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 1829 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1580 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1640 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 1791 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1518 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 940 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 883 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1685 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 1859 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 1868 Views
Re: Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:55:06 PM 1861 Views
(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 1823 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 1816 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:39:44 AM 1620 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 1912 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1607 Views
Re: I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 08:33:44 PM 1724 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 794 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1734 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 1702 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1697 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 947 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 1779 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 1818 Views
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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM 1349 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 10:20:28 PM 1719 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:23:38 PM 1616 Views
Re: Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 10:15:58 PM 1752 Views
On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 1684 Views
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Fleur - 23/10/2010 05:11:08 PM 1569 Views
Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1642 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1562 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1691 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1732 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 787 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1524 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1514 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 939 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 888 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 1774 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1525 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1554 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1533 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1528 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1711 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 1640 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1580 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1728 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1631 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1712 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1702 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 1773 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1594 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 887 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1657 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1563 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 1587 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1581 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 903 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1529 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 23/10/2010 05:33:27 PM 1652 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 1637 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 939 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 907 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 1802 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1664 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1501 Views
Re: I don't hide from my faults. - 28/10/2010 04:59:54 AM 1680 Views
Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 1664 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1549 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1597 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 26/10/2010 11:56:59 PM 1687 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 27/10/2010 08:14:42 AM 1698 Views
Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1662 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1700 Views
Re: Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 26/10/2010 09:46:47 AM 1598 Views
The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1644 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1567 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1679 Views
Re: Things - 27/10/2010 12:01:17 AM 1692 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 730 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1516 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1646 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1496 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1712 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1608 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1568 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1631 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1616 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1582 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1582 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1854 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1729 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 770 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1623 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 899 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 881 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1600 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1576 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1609 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1765 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1740 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 699 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1629 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1784 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1648 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1666 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 730 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1772 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1711 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1570 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1757 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1618 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1678 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1513 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 870 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 957 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1760 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1587 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1592 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 1830 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1686 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1650 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1344 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1587 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1602 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1530 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1685 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 765 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1604 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1684 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 665 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 988 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1494 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1737 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1817 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 768 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1814 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 788 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 1895 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 911 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1655 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1678 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1698 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 804 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1619 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1673 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1687 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1523 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1686 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1661 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 784 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1515 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1349 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1562 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 810 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1602 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1840 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1586 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 910 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 747 Views
Snape, Lupin, Hermione & Ron, the Order, Mrs Weasley & Fleur, Luna & Neville, Scrimgeour, Ginny *DH* - 09/11/2010 02:20:01 PM 1532 Views
Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) - 13/11/2010 12:03:16 AM 1763 Views
Re: Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) - 13/11/2010 09:35:04 AM 1693 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 876 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1531 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1587 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1682 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1674 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1643 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1791 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 1933 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 756 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1654 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 1851 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1555 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1676 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1656 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 1898 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2128 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1667 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1770 Views

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