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Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) Legolas Send a noteboard - 13/11/2010 12:03:16 AM
Snape: The scene where Harry catches up with him is again delightful. He keeps him from using an unforgivable curse (an not for Snape's own sake alone, I think). And it is only when Harry calls him a coward that he reacts with anger (and, considering what he has just been through, you cannot really blame him at that point). And it is when that is repeated (mixed with the attribution of blame for the death of Lily (Harry refers to his father, but that entails the other), which probably makes it worse) that he really loses it. He intervenes to stop Harry being tortured, and he keeps instructing him all the way. How anyone could actually believe Snape was a bad guy is beyond me.

The part with Snape stopping Harry from being tortured, that is. The excuses he gives for that - and for running away immediately - aren't very convincing, considering the Ministry doesn't seem to find out until a good while later when Slughorn tells them. Good thing those other Death Eaters aren't the brightest cookies in the box and don't notice that Snape is doing what he can to protect Harry and the students of Hogwarts.

I also hadn't realized that Snape is blocking Harry's non-verbal spells by using his Legilimency skills.

Lupin evidently knew nothing about Lily's connection to Snape. Makes one wonder if James knew... well, after they got together, that is, he almost certainly didn't before.

It is one of Rowling's best scenes emotionally. Makes me all the more annoyed they butchered it beyond recognition in the movie. It was the defining moment for Snape, essential for the depth of his character, and they just had Rickman do the normal sneering Snape. I really, really wonder why. Was it just because they figure the audience (those who haven't read the books, anyway) consists of idiots?
Lupin: the description of his reaction to the news of Dumbledore's death is surprisingly effective. The exclamation, disbelief, the utter grief. I believe it. It is not fancy, a masterpiece of prose. But it is again that snapshot quality. The description of actions, then Harry's gloss. Lupin is the one who has continually relied on Dumbledore the most, I think. I mean, they all do, but there is something extra there. Dumbledore is the one who takes him in and allows him to form part of wizarding society in a way he would not otherwise have been able to do. It is he who provides him with the opportunity to have friends. He is the one who gives him a job, and it is to avoid giving him trouble that Lupin leaves. There is a very strong connection there, and I cannot help thinking that the idea of Dumbledore is what makes it possible for Lupin to go under cover. And then this.

Yes, makes sense. Same with Hagrid to some extent, though of course Hagrid is more emotional in general.
And, all right, so the scene with Tonks is fine. That does not mean I am convinced.

You should be. :P They're a perfectly credible couple.
The Order: their shock at Snape's apparent treachery is of course understandable, and McGonagall's almost fainting made it very apparent. But I am a little surprised that they are all so ready to stop trusting Dumbledore's judgement now he is dead. Yesyes, being killed by Snape does look very bad, but still. Then again, if any of them had as much as uttered any suggestion that there might be another explanation, I suspect Harry would have gone mental.

It is kind of sad that the Order so blindly relies on Dumbledore, accepting Snape because of him and then not doing it anymore once Dumbledore is dead. Of course, that all works out, but it's kind of unusual to have "the good side" function in such a hierarchical way with nearly everyone cut out of the loop, and following their lone leader. And then of course Harry continues that, he confides in the rest of the Trio, but not the Order. For all that he does love and trust many people, in the end his modus operandi is not so different from Voldemort's, confiding in very few people and thus risking that it'll all come falling down if he should die or be captured. That has to make things extremely frustrating for everybody else in Britain who wants to oppose Voldemort, particularly after the Ministry takeover.
Mrs Weasley and Fleur: one of Fleur's finest moments, I think. And it re-establishes her character, taking us back to who she was in the fourth book (at least in my mind) -- seeing her through the distorting lens of Harry via the Weasley women has suspended the strong part of her character, but here it is back. "I am beautiful enough for the both of us" is an excellent line.

It's a bit of a silly scene, because the whole prejudice against her was a bit silly from the start. The reader never thought that Fleur was a shallow bitch - or at least not anymore after getting to know her in book four - so it's not exactly a shock or noteworthy that she reacts like that. But good that the Weasley (+ Granger) women finally come to their senses, I suppose.
Scrimgeour: not his best move talking to Harry at the funeral. He isn't quite a diplomat.

Does he or his Ministry actually do anything useful during the entirety of his term in office? I'm having a hard time thinking of anything. Rather pathetic. But then of course we couldn't have that, the hero has to get the credit for defeating the villain. And since the story is set in a modern universe, that has to mean either the hero is part of the government/armed forces/secret service/whatever, or the government/etc. is completely incompetent. I don't suppose Rowling had much of a choice.
Ginny: I am suprised at how accepting she is. His point is a good one, of course, but still.

Yeah, generally the whole noble thing is a bit silly and women rightly quash it, but here he does have a point. I'm not sure breaking up makes much sense, but temporarily severing contact does, so I guess it amounts to the same thing either way.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 2663 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1531 Views
I am enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would. - 22/10/2010 07:25:17 PM 1652 Views
Yes, I'm loving that I can read in English again. - 22/10/2010 10:10:32 PM 1766 Views
Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1525 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1578 Views
Re: Suggestions. - 20/10/2010 03:20:18 PM 1720 Views
*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1445 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 902 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 850 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1616 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 1792 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 1790 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 1759 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 1748 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:39:44 AM 1554 Views
Re: *spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 11:48:45 AM 1848 Views
I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1536 Views
Re: I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 08:33:44 PM 1649 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 756 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1669 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:31:56 PM 1636 Views
Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1616 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 911 Views
Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 03:46:47 PM 1705 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 1741 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:46:08 PM 1669 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:20:28 PM 1543 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM 1277 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 10:20:28 PM 1643 Views
Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:23:38 PM 1540 Views
Re: Characters: Slughorn, Fleur, the Trio, Draco and Narcissa Malfoy,... - 20/10/2010 10:15:58 PM 1687 Views
On Ron's reaction to Fleur... - 20/10/2010 11:30:48 PM 1617 Views
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Fleur - 23/10/2010 05:11:08 PM 1503 Views
Dumbledore, Slughorn, Tonks, Mr & Mrs Weasley, Hermione, Narcissa and the twins. - 20/10/2010 09:23:04 PM 1567 Views
Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1500 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1623 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1667 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:48:07 PM 751 Views
Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1460 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1453 Views
Chapters 7-9: Slug Club, Snape Victorious, The Half-Blood Prince *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:03 PM 904 Views
Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 844 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 1711 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1462 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1482 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1467 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1460 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1648 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:04:24 PM 1591 Views
Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1495 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1668 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1561 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1640 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1637 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 1700 Views
Re: Characters - 25/10/2010 10:44:00 AM 1533 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 849 Views
Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 07:27:23 PM 1591 Views
Malfoy and the DADA job. - 22/10/2010 10:51:03 PM 1497 Views
Re: Malfoy and the DADA job. - 25/10/2010 11:31:57 AM 1519 Views
Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1512 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 868 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1464 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 23/10/2010 05:33:27 PM 1584 Views
Re: I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 25/10/2010 03:06:43 AM 1575 Views
Chapters 10-12: The House of Gaunt, Hermione's Helping Hand, Silver and Opals. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:00:02 PM 905 Views
Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 877 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 1731 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1597 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1438 Views
Re: I don't hide from my faults. - 28/10/2010 04:59:54 AM 1605 Views
Re: *lol* - 26/10/2010 09:50:09 AM 1590 Views
~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1490 Views
Re: ~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 09:49:12 PM 1452 Views
Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1535 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 26/10/2010 11:56:59 PM 1622 Views
Re: Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 27/10/2010 08:14:42 AM 1638 Views
Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1602 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1638 Views
Re: Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 26/10/2010 09:46:47 AM 1534 Views
The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1584 Views
Re: The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 08:10:46 AM 1504 Views
Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1618 Views
Re: Things - 27/10/2010 12:01:17 AM 1624 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 694 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1443 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1590 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1434 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1626 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1548 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1489 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1563 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1560 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1514 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1511 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1790 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1668 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 737 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1566 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 870 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 852 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1536 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1512 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1536 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1700 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1677 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 669 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1566 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1704 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1582 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1596 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 710 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1694 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1648 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1502 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1677 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1559 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1618 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1432 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 832 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 922 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1695 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1516 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1528 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 1749 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1620 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1587 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1275 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1517 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1527 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1458 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1607 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 735 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1534 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1610 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 641 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 954 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1427 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1678 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1747 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 735 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1742 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 754 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 1832 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 877 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1597 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1609 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1630 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 766 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1553 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1609 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1614 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1453 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1622 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1592 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 752 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1447 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1280 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1494 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 772 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1534 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1769 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1529 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 879 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 711 Views
Snape, Lupin, Hermione & Ron, the Order, Mrs Weasley & Fleur, Luna & Neville, Scrimgeour, Ginny *DH* - 09/11/2010 02:20:01 PM 1469 Views
Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) - 13/11/2010 12:03:16 AM 1694 Views
Re: Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) - 13/11/2010 09:35:04 AM 1632 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 846 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1471 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1520 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1622 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1616 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1578 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1725 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 1862 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 726 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1592 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 1781 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1483 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1607 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1568 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 1827 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2067 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1598 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1707 Views

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