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Re: It is excellent Camilla Send a noteboard - 09/11/2010 10:58:23 PM
Although when I had my students read it, the boys appreciated it significantly less than the girls.

I wonder why. ;) Though I'm sure they appreciated it more than they were willing to admit publicly.


Indeed ;)

I like his Satyre on King Charles II, as well.

He has other good stuff, but there are none that are so brilliant in terms of such good poetry describing such a very, er, risqué subject.

And of course

Here lies a great and mighty King,

Whose promise none relied on;

He never said a foolish thing,

Nor ever did a wise one

Props to Charles for coming up with a witty reply to that one, though (if you haven't read it, it was something to the effect of that that made perfect sense, since his words were his own while his acts were his ministers';).

I usually recoil at obscenity, but there is something about obscenity wrapped in perfect form which changes it entirely. It makes it not vulgar, I suppose. And I won't pretend the fact that it is a couple of hundred years old does not help.

Well, most of it isn't even that obscene - I mean, yes, it's graphic, but the language is only obscene on occasion, like the "her hand, her foot, her very look's a cunt" bit. Phrases like "the all-dissolving thunderbolt below" are more hilarious than obscene. :P


Well, I say only,

In th' isle of Britain, long since famous grown
For breeding the best cunts in Christendom,
There reigns, and oh! long may he reign and thrive,
The easiest King and best-bred man alive.
Him no ambition moves to get renown
Like the French fool, that wanders up and down
Starving his people, hazarding his crown.
Peace is his aim, his gentleness is such,
And love he loves, for he loves fucking much.

Nor are his high desires above his strength:
His scepter and his prick are of a length;
And she may sway the one who plays with th' other,
And make him little wiser than his brother.
Poor Prince! thy prick, like thy buffoons at Court,
Will govern thee because it makes thee sport.
'Tis sure the sauciest prick that e'er did swive,
The proudest, peremptoriest prick alive.
Though safety, law, religion, life lay on 't,
'Twould break through all to make its way to cunt.
Restless he rolls about from whore to whore,
A merry monarch, scandalous and poor.

To Carwell, the most dear of all his dears,
The best relief of his declining years,
Oft he bewails his fortune, and her fate:
To love so well, and be beloved so late.]
For though in her he settles well his tarse,
Yet his dull, graceless bollocks hang an arse.
This you'd believe, had I but time to tell ye
The pains it costs to poor, laborious Nelly,
Whilst she employs hands, fingers, mouth, and thighs,
Ere she can raise the member she enjoys.
All monarchs I hate, and the thrones they sit on,
From the hector of France to the cully of Britain.
*MySmiley*
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I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM 859 Views
Come now, who's pretending? Dan - 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM 881 Views
That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM 409 Views
Word. *NM* *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:29:37 PM 331 Views
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Keep telling yourself that. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM 742 Views
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What about THE Other? *NM* Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:53 AM 368 Views
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See my original point. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:15:30 PM 368 Views
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And I was evasive about it at the time. When pressed, I answered more fully. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:48:27 PM 883 Views
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Because I didn't want to spend an hour pulling out a few dozen books. Larry - 10/11/2010 12:19:55 AM 989 Views
Ye gods. Could you people at the very, very least make your messages NM? Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:17:25 PM 853 Views
But that takes the fun out of this! *NM* Larry - 09/11/2010 11:21:25 PM 410 Views
Re: Best one liner of the threadjack. Gaps - 10/11/2010 12:37:27 AM 975 Views
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K. Ghavrel - 08/11/2010 04:35:56 AM 1019 Views
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Nothing wrong with humorous redundancy! Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 874 Views
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Yes. Yes, they did. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM 337 Views
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Interersting temeraire - 08/11/2010 05:14:41 PM 928 Views
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Basing what, exactly? But the short answer is, no. Palatine - 10/11/2010 05:48:28 PM 921 Views
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It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM 1033 Views
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Just remembered my favourite poem Stephen - 09/11/2010 10:50:03 PM 960 Views
That is very nice *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:59:53 PM 460 Views
I'll answer this unnumbered survey. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:37:50 AM 1010 Views
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Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. (beat.) - 11/11/2010 11:57:02 AM 1063 Views
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I can't believe I forgot to mention Leonard Cohen. *NM* (beat.) - 12/11/2010 04:33:15 AM 356 Views
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