Although when I had my students read it, the boys appreciated it significantly less than the girls.
I wonder why.
Though I'm sure they appreciated it more than they were willing to admit publicly. I like his Satyre on King Charles II, as well.
He has other good stuff, but there are none that are so brilliant in terms of such good poetry describing such a very, er, risqué subject.
And of course
Here lies a great and mighty King,
Whose promise none relied on;
He never said a foolish thing,
Nor ever did a wise one
Props to Charles for coming up with a witty reply to that one, though (if you haven't read it, it was something to the effect of that that made perfect sense, since his words were his own while his acts were his ministers'
. I usually recoil at obscenity, but there is something about obscenity wrapped in perfect form which changes it entirely. It makes it not vulgar, I suppose. And I won't pretend the fact that it is a couple of hundred years old does not help.
Well, most of it isn't even that obscene - I mean, yes, it's graphic, but the language is only obscene on occasion, like the "her hand, her foot, her very look's a cunt" bit. Phrases like "the all-dissolving thunderbolt below" are more hilarious than obscene.
Poetry:
- 08/11/2010 02:07:39 AM
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Re: Poetry:
- 08/11/2010 04:13:38 AM
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This is why people dislike you.
- 09/11/2010 07:03:17 PM
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Umm...I care?
- 09/11/2010 08:42:55 PM
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Because you should care about being intelligent, rather than appearing to be intelligent.
- 09/11/2010 10:32:04 PM
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Again, why would I care?
- 09/11/2010 10:38:21 PM
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No one can make you care about being decent, or intelligent, or a viable member of the community.
- 09/11/2010 10:41:34 PM
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I think it's rather pointless, to be honest.
- 09/11/2010 10:54:17 PM
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Then why are you even here?
- 09/11/2010 10:59:49 PM
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I don't know. I thought I'd see how long I could string you along.
- 09/11/2010 11:00:37 PM
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You're the one who doesn't care.
- 09/11/2010 11:02:11 PM
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I care only as much as I care. What others think is irrelevant to that.
- 09/11/2010 11:04:15 PM
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But you're still responding to me.
- 09/11/2010 11:05:37 PM
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Because I'm stringing you out until you quit.
- 09/11/2010 11:10:18 PM
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I'm not going to. I find this entertaining.
- 09/11/2010 11:12:27 PM
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I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit.
- 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM
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Come now, who's pretending?
- 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM
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That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM*
- 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM
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*NM*
- 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM
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Me, most of the time
- 09/11/2010 11:40:26 PM
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Keep telling yourself that. *NM*
- 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM
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Why would I? It's not something I think much about these days. Again, what others think is trivial. *NM*
- 10/11/2010 12:01:03 AM
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Are you 5?
- 09/11/2010 11:14:26 PM
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Nah
- 09/11/2010 11:15:48 PM
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But you were asked about it originally. That was my point.
- 09/11/2010 11:23:25 PM
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And I was evasive about it at the time. When pressed, I answered more fully.
- 09/11/2010 11:48:27 PM
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Why be evasive?
- 10/11/2010 12:16:19 AM
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Because I didn't want to spend an hour pulling out a few dozen books.
- 10/11/2010 12:19:55 AM
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Ye gods. Could you people at the very, very least make your messages NM?
- 09/11/2010 11:17:25 PM
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*NM*
I must say, I'm glad you all decided to play up when I was having an evening off. *NM*
- 10/11/2010 12:08:59 PM
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*NM*
- 10/11/2010 12:08:59 PM
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I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations.
- 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM
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Not "no value", but "different value" is what I would argue
- 09/11/2010 09:55:54 PM
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I don't disagree, but you can't possibly learn all languages, yet you can read translations of all.
- 09/11/2010 10:56:58 PM
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My choice, hands down, is to ignore the poetry in languages I don't read.
- 10/11/2010 01:44:32 AM
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An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity.
- 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM
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Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion.
- 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM
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I think you underestimate the number of translations of the Bible.
- 09/11/2010 01:20:30 AM
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Did they just translate logos as... life-light?
- 09/11/2010 07:14:28 PM
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Yes. Yes, they did. *NM*
- 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM
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I think poetry is largely overrated.
- 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM
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the problem is most good poets are dead and dead people tend to fail at marketing
- 08/11/2010 06:44:18 PM
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I like some poetry, but by no means all.
- 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM
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Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems. *NM*
- 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM
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*NM*
- 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM
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It is excellent
- 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM
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Re: It is excellent
- 09/11/2010 10:53:24 PM
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*NM*
Re: Poetry:
- 10/11/2010 04:57:31 PM
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Re: Nice
- 11/11/2010 01:39:48 AM
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Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night.
- 11/11/2010 11:57:02 AM
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Re: Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night.
- 12/11/2010 04:36:22 AM
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