I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers)
Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM
Am I the only one seeing a reference, or a counterimitation of sorts, to Moria here? Dumbledore opening the gate, pondering it, finding it laughably simple (although in very different ways to the Tolkien version); then the connection to fire, and then death (falling). It does not follow it as a pattern, but there are some similarities that struck me there. Of course, Dumbledore actually dies, never to return. And the similarities accentuate the difference, I think. Still, I thought it worth mentioning.
The way it's invisible until you do the right thing and then suddenly it lits up, but then you still have to figure out how to get in. The rest... the fire thing feels like a bit of a stretch to me, but the falling, yes, agreed. In both books it's the mentor figure showing just how important he is once more - and then falling to leave the mission in the hands of someone unprepared for it, but not incapable of it. And Dumbledore will return, in a fashion...
Good magic not being flashy is of course also a Tolkien thing. But Dumbledore can be plenty flashy when he wants to be, as we've seen before.
The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
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General comments on the book.
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Suggestions.
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Dumbledore-centered.
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I was kind of disappointed that Harry didn't remark on that fact.
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Love is in the air, evidently.
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I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions.
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I'm not sure if I noticed this before, but awesome Tolkien shout-out there.
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Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right).
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*lol*
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It's like baking, I think.
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Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising.
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Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing?
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I think it's a magic thing.
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It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7
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parseltongue
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Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines.
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I wonder if that's actually true, though.
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I want to hear the joke about the hag, the Healer and the Mimbulus mimbletonia. *NM*
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Me too. And is a "hag" just an old witch, or something more specific?
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Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler*
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This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here...
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I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing
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I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers)
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Snape, Lupin, Hermione & Ron, the Order, Mrs Weasley & Fleur, Luna & Neville, Scrimgeour, Ginny *DH*
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I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did.
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Very true.
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Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention.
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With my keen attention to detail, I somehow missed that.
Another good catch!
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Another good catch!
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We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday
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This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies.
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I just watched OotP again Saturday night... quite shocking there as well.
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Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers*