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Re: My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. Camilla Send a noteboard - 29/10/2010 09:06:16 PM
I also like how he deflects Harry's suspicions about Draco. I am sure the "Dumbledore should tell Harry everything" crow disagrees, but I don't think Harry would be able to handle the truth.

Hm. Agreed, I think. And I don't know if Dumbledore fully trusts Harry to keep his mouth shut on the Snape matter... the less people know about it, the better.


True.

I really like seeing him as a child.

Yes, it does offer some depth to his character... though Rowling makes clear he was a sociopath from the start, even if his childhood wasn't the easiest. I like how she avoided the cliché traumatic orphanage thing and replaced it by a flawed but well-intentioned one.


Yes. Especially since she has already made a point of showing that Harry is not determined by his childhood.

Ron and Harmione: their spat over the Slug Club and the reaction when she says she was going to ask him ... aww.

Yes. And then Ginny has to go and ruin it. See below.


I wouldn't say that is all down to Ginny.

I feel so sorry for Hermione when Ron goes off on his insanity period. Lavender Brown. I ask you. Of course, death by birds seems a fitting punishment. As is taking Cormac to the party. Take THAT stupid boy!

I liked the comment about how she "left Harry to ponder in silence the depths to which girls would sink to get revenge". Which is so true - seriously, what the hell is that about? Dating someone else so Ron will realize he wants her, fine, even though Ron *already* realizes and is already employing the same tactic, so it isn't the smartest tactic to begin with. But dating someone she can't stand just to annoy Ron... that is indeed incredibly lame.


Interesting that you would say that. I sympathise entirely with Hermione here, and I think she is doing exactly the right thing. A perfect punishment. And she isn't really dating him. She is just taking him to a party. And avoids him.

But prior to that, yes, I felt quite sorry for Hermione too.

Harry: finally. Jesus Christ. That boy is slow on the uptake. It takes enthusiastic kissing right in front of him for him to get it?

And how. The "roaring monster" thing seemed slightly over the top, but it's amusing.


I agree about the monster. But I suppose that is what it takes to wake the boy up.

His idea for tricking Ron into playing better is excellent, though. It shows insight into human psyche I really hadn't thought he had. Perhaps he is growing up.

He's realized before that Ron's issue is confidence, and since he's never been slow in practical issues, I'm not surprised.


True.

Ginny: anyone else feel like applauding after her go at Ron after his tantrum?

No. My main reaction - this time around, can't remember on earlier reads - is bewilderment. Why exactly is Ginny successively "beside herself", "snorting with derisive laughter" and "close to tears now"? That she would get mad and try and get her brothers out of her love life for once and for all, is understandable. But her getting so very upset about it suggests there's more to it. Guilt seems like the obvious explanation - after all, she was raised in the same somewhat puritan family as Ron, perhaps part of her does feel guilty for going through boyfriends at such a rate, particularly since she's still got her sights set on Harry at the end of the day. Frustration too, maybe.


I am with Rebekah on this. It makes perfect sense.

Either way, her tantrum there (temporarily) spoils the careful steps Ron and Hermione had been taking towards each other, and causes Hermione great pain, so I wouldn't applaud her for it, no. Of course Hermione then goes and does even more questionable things, and in the end she does get Ron where she wants him, but still.


That cannot be laid tat Ginny's door. Ron has way more agency here.

Of course that is what pushes Ron off the deep end. And it was going so swimmingly with Hermione. *sigh*

Exactly.

Luna: I love her. She is spot on. And the "no one has asked me to a party as a friend before" breaks my heart. But in a good way. She really was the best choice for it. I wonder whether Harry invited her because she had just mentioned Ginny. He seems to be acting on reflexes about her a lot here.

Yeah, we never really get an explanation for that one... but it's a good choice.

Snape: I really, really like how entirely ambiguous the drawing of him is here.

Yep.
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1648 Views
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Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1842 Views
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My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1562 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1595 Views
Re: My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 09:06:16 PM 1555 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1751 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 691 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1615 Views
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Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1635 Views
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Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1555 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1740 Views
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It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1664 Views
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Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 862 Views
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Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1746 Views
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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1570 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1587 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1512 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1668 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 759 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1582 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1669 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 655 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 981 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1477 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 761 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1799 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 779 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 1883 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 902 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1642 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1666 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 794 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1606 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1661 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1668 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1505 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1669 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1645 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 778 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1497 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1337 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1547 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 803 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1588 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1815 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1574 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 903 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 740 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 869 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1519 Views
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I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1670 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1659 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1628 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1777 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 1915 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 750 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1643 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 1838 Views
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This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1663 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1643 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 1883 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2114 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1651 Views
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