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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 21/10/2010 12:04:23 AM
I was trying to think of a way to say the same thing, the not malevolently racist bit, but couldn't come up with anything. It's like a general attitude he has but he doesn't hold to it when someone is gifted like Lily or Dirk Creswell. I find it odd.

I think it's not really odd, quite realistic in fact. Just think of all the racists who make exceptions for their personal friends.

Dumbledore refers to his "considerable talents" and I think Slughorn is aware that he may be useful to Voldemort. Do you think this is arrogance on Slughorn's part or an astute observation and reaction?

I think he certainly might be useful to Voldemort, but still it's interesting that he'd think he would be among Voldemort's first priorities, and that Voldemort would risk blowing his cover (well, to the extent he still has a cover). What I also want to know is what he did during the previous war - evidently he never became a DE, but did he spend all that time running away so they could never try to recruit him, too?

That's a good question. Was Slughorn still teaching at Hogwarts during the last war? He taught Lily, so probably, which makes me think that Slughorn was safe at the school during the last war. Pure speculation though.

See, now I adore Ginny, but I think she's really unfair. I think Fleur is trying in the beginning and then as she gets the attitude she stops trying as hard (the Christmas radio broadcast comes to mind, hardly her most endearing chapter). I never understood why everyone was so shocked that she still wants to marry Bill by the end, if anything I'd think she'd want to call it off before to get away from a family that doesn't want her.

*I* think Ginny is unfair, too, but I'm not sure if Rowling does, which was my point about not being sure what to infer. And yes, agreed - I'm not sure if any reader really would've expected Fleur to go "no, I can't marry him anymore". She's shown a long time ago that she has her priorities straight.

Ahhh, gotcha.

I felt badly for her briefly after the Lucius remark, until she hits back just as hard about Harry being reunited with Sirius.

Heh, yes.

I didn't phrase that as well as I would have liked...I'll blame a lack of coffee. ;) I meant how Mrs. Weasley has always wanted them to be more like Percy and being disappointed with their behavior. It provides a nice counterpoint to this to see them be successful and later showing their mother how much they appreciate her. I think they are great sons.

Oh, yeah, I was glad to see her come around, too.

That's exactly it! He's right in the next book too about something big...so that's the second time a day, right? ;)

Indeed. I suppose it makes sense that he gets to be right more often later on in the books, older and wiser and all... but every once in a while he still has to get things totally and utterly wrong to not make the reader wonder who this guy is and what he's done with Harry Potter.

That made me laugh, because you're so right. :D
He's starting to come around in this book, getting more and more stuff right and I think he keeps it pretty clean in the next book. Not perfect, but like you said we need to recognize Harry!
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Six, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - 18/10/2010 06:12:40 PM 2629 Views
General comments on the book. - 18/10/2010 06:14:10 PM 1503 Views
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Me too - 01/11/2010 02:11:28 PM 1497 Views
Suggestions. - 18/10/2010 06:18:46 PM 1544 Views
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*cough* - 09/11/2010 09:24:21 AM 1428 Views
Oh yes. I'm being distracted by Towers of Midnight. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:11:22 PM 893 Views
Shocking. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:43 PM 835 Views
Are we having a break right now? - 12/11/2010 06:48:10 PM 1589 Views
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Chapters 1-3: The Other Minister, Spinner's End, Will and Won't. - 18/10/2010 06:21:55 PM 1765 Views
Characters: The three Ministers, Snape, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Dumbledore, the Dursleys. - 18/10/2010 06:25:12 PM 1743 Views
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(minor book seven spoilers) - 19/10/2010 11:27:53 AM 1728 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* an assortment of characters - 19/10/2010 01:01:35 AM 1722 Views
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I rather enjoyed the new characters. - 22/10/2010 07:30:03 PM 1499 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 18/10/2010 06:28:16 PM 747 Views
Dumbledore-centered. - 19/10/2010 01:03:05 AM 1631 Views
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Re: Dumbledore-centered. - 22/10/2010 07:33:34 PM 1584 Views
Chapters 4-6: Horace Slughorn, An Excess of Phlegm, Draco's Detour. *NM* - 20/10/2010 03:44:39 PM 900 Views
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(Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... - 20/10/2010 09:25:20 PM 1717 Views
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Characters. - 25/10/2010 03:10:35 AM 1462 Views
Plotting and writing. - 20/10/2010 03:47:55 PM 1593 Views
*minor spoilers for book 7* - 20/10/2010 09:23:44 PM 1638 Views
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Dumbledore's Stephen Fry moment... or maybe that's just me. - 22/10/2010 07:35:59 PM 1430 Views
It's not just you - 22/10/2010 08:34:25 PM 1431 Views
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Characters *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:24 PM 837 Views
Harry, Romilda, Malfoy (in luuuve), Snape, Lavender Brown, McGonagall, Hermione and Slughorn. - 22/10/2010 07:26:19 PM 1675 Views
Thoughts about your thoughts. - 23/10/2010 05:28:10 PM 1429 Views
Re: Thoughts about your thoughts. - 24/10/2010 09:18:37 AM 1440 Views
More characters. - 25/10/2010 03:21:33 AM 1434 Views
Re: More characters. - 25/10/2010 10:27:33 AM 1430 Views
Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 07:54:35 PM 1609 Views
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Re: Love is in the air, evidently. - 22/10/2010 09:54:46 PM 1463 Views
Slytherin had been in need of new blood for a long time. (And assorted other comments.) - 22/10/2010 10:34:49 PM 1634 Views
Neville. - 23/10/2010 05:30:39 PM 1530 Views
Re: Neville. - 08/11/2010 02:35:57 PM 1609 Views
NEWT Potions - 24/10/2010 03:24:42 AM 1609 Views
Re: Characters - 24/10/2010 03:41:30 AM 1666 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:37 PM 838 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, patronuses and the DADA job. - 23/10/2010 05:32:27 PM 1481 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 22/10/2010 07:23:50 PM 855 Views
I believe in Wrackspurts, too. And some questions. - 22/10/2010 07:28:04 PM 1433 Views
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Characters: The Gaunts, the Trio, Hagrid, and many more. *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:02:07 PM 866 Views
Harry's continued insistence about Malfoy really irritates me (even though he's right). - 25/10/2010 06:15:23 PM 1695 Views
*lol* - 25/10/2010 06:39:19 PM 1571 Views
I don't hide from my faults. - 25/10/2010 08:01:39 PM 1408 Views
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~geeky moment~ - 26/10/2010 03:14:52 PM 1465 Views
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Trelawny, Ogden, Gaunt, Ron, Hermione, Ron and Harry - 25/10/2010 10:23:55 PM 1504 Views
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Plotting and writing. - 25/10/2010 05:03:16 PM 1577 Views
Amazing amounts of accurate guesswork here, in hindsight. - 25/10/2010 05:37:28 PM 1609 Views
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The smuggling and Trelawney's rambling. - 27/10/2010 12:05:48 AM 1552 Views
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Things - 25/10/2010 10:24:19 PM 1584 Views
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Anything else? *NM* - 25/10/2010 05:03:32 PM 687 Views
Dumbledore still sounds like Stephen Fry. And reflections on the nature of Potions class. - 25/10/2010 05:11:24 PM 1406 Views
It's like baking, I think. - 25/10/2010 05:32:42 PM 1561 Views
Good analogy - 25/10/2010 05:52:38 PM 1401 Views
Yes, exactly like baking - and advanced baking involves experimenting, substituting, improvising. - 25/10/2010 06:42:42 PM 1597 Views
But not at high school. - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1514 Views
Also - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1463 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1530 Views
I think it's a magic thing. - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1523 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1482 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1482 Views
Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1754 Views
parseltongue - 25/10/2010 10:24:46 PM 1630 Views
Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 720 Views
Indeed - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1537 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Secret Riddle, Felix Felicis, The Unbreakable Vow *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:16:28 PM 858 Views
Characters: The Trio, Ginny, Tom Riddle, Draco,... *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:12 PM 840 Views
Dumbledore, Voldemort, Ron & Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Luna - 27/10/2010 10:31:39 PM 1504 Views
My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. - 29/10/2010 01:47:20 PM 1472 Views
Girls. - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1510 Views
Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 02:02:01 PM 1669 Views
Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1648 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 656 Views
plot and writing. - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1541 Views
Re: plot and writing. - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1673 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1550 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1564 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 700 Views
Re: Anything else? - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1665 Views
Re: Anything else? - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1619 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1459 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1646 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1522 Views
It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1581 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1400 Views
Chapters 16-18: A Very Frosty Christmas, A Sluggish Memory, Birthday Surprises *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:40:39 PM 816 Views
Characters: The Trio, Fleur, Scrimgeour, Percy, Remus, Slughorn,... *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:43:02 PM 906 Views
Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 08:51:58 PM 1665 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:24:02 PM 1478 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1491 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:14:46 PM 1720 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1585 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 06:23:04 PM 1552 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1242 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1486 Views
And - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1496 Views
Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1433 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1569 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 719 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1500 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1581 Views
Chapters 19-21: Elf Tails, Lord Voldemort's Requests, The Unknowable Room *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:22 PM 630 Views
Characters: The Trio, the elves, Draco, Dumbledore,... *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:00:56 PM 940 Views
the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1391 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1640 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1718 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 725 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1710 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 743 Views
Chapters 22-24: After the Burial, Horcruxes, Sectumsempra - 03/11/2010 09:50:17 PM 1801 Views
Characters. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 863 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1569 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1574 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1592 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 751 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1521 Views
Re: Stuff. - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1590 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1586 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1426 Views
Yes, I think you are right - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1582 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1558 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 740 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1413 Views
Plotting and writing. - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1252 Views
*spoilers for book 7* - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1465 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 763 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1504 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1733 Views
yes - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1510 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 869 Views
Characters. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 701 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 835 Views
Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1444 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1486 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1594 Views
Very true. - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1585 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1544 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1696 Views
Re: Spoilers. - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 1832 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 714 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1564 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 1754 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1452 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1577 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1542 Views
Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 1798 Views
Re: Very true. - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2032 Views
Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1577 Views
Re: Agreed. - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1677 Views

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