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Re: (Mostly) on Slughorn, Narcissa and Fleur... Seriana Sedai Send a noteboard - 20/10/2010 09:46:08 PM
Slughorn...while he is the kind of person I detest in real life I find Slughorn oddly charming even when he is quite clearly only out for himself. I think he is the one who gives Harry the most information about Lily he's ever had. Well, until book 7, but definitely up to this point. Maybe I like Slughorn because he is clever. He is quick thinking and demonstrates it here in more than one way. Maybe I find it understandable that he would want to lay low, just not noble like most of our heroes in the series are. The musing can continue later I suppose.

He really incarnates the spirit of Slytherin, in a way. Ambitious, manipulative, preferring to pull the strings from the shadows instead of taking risks in the limelight. But unlike nearly everybody else in Slytherin (which is a big mistake on Rowling's part imho, but we'll get to that in due time, end of book seven), he's not on the evil side. He evidently has some remains of prejudice against Muggleborns, but isn't really set against them - kind of like how older people back in the day had this slightly dubious yet not really malevolently racist view of black people.

I was trying to think of a way to say the same thing, the not malevolently racist bit, but couldn't come up with anything. It's like a general attitude he has but he doesn't hold to it when someone is gifted like Lily or Dirk Creswell. I find it odd.

What's remarkable is that he has been on the run for a year, he says. So he must have expected Voldemort would try to recruit him long before Voldemort gave up his secrecy... interesting.

Dumbledore refers to his "considerable talents" and I think Slughorn is aware that he may be useful to Voldemort. Do you think this is arrogance on Slughorn's part or an astute observation and reaction?

Dumbledore...I feel a little conflicted about his dealing with Slughorn. We are clearly witnessing Dumbledore at his most manipulative, but I don't know what else he is to have done. He needs Slughorn close for a variety of reasons and the decision is ultimately left to Slughorn...I don't know. I like him a lot better in his broom closet conversation with Harry.

Manipulative isn't necessarily evil. Dumbledore plays dirty, perhaps, but Slughorn is old and wise enough to know he's being played, and takes the bait anyway. The choice is his. So I don't think Dumbledore is to blame here.

That's kind of how I feel about it ultimately, that Slughorn knows he's being played, but it still doesn't sit nicely with me. He does refer to Harry's presence by saying "Don't think I don't know why he brought you" or something similar. I'm ultimately okay with it, but not 100%

I wind up feeling sorry for Fleur. She's trying really hard. I think I feel sorry for her because I see some of myself in her actions. She tries really hard and then she puts her foot in her mouth. Like when she says there is nothing really to do if you don't like cooking. Totally true, and there is no way Mrs Weasley is sharing that responsibility, but still not the right thing to say here.

I don't know about trying really hard. The female Weasleys (which might as well include Hermione) are too hard on her, yes, but it's not as if she's entirely innocent in the matter. Fleur *is* arrogant, but then she has every reason to be, and she has a good heart. I imagine her attitude towards Bill's family isn't meant to be as rude as it ends up coming across, but she probably could have done more effort if she had bothered.

I'm not sure if we're really meant to infer here that Mrs. Weasley, Ginny and Hermione are really wrong with their initial attitude. There will be that reconciliation at the end of the book, but that isn't really presented as them being proven wrong, more as Fleur showing an unexpected side. Which isn't actually unexpected to the readers which remember her from book four. But yes, Harry is the one who has the best and most justified attitude towards her (no wonder, he's the one who knows her best apart from Bill).

See, now I adore Ginny, but I think she's really unfair. I think Fleur is trying in the beginning and then as she gets the attitude she stops trying as hard (the Christmas radio broadcast comes to mind, hardly her most endearing chapter). I never understood why everyone was so shocked that she still wants to marry Bill by the end, if anything I'd think she'd want to call it off before to get away from a family that doesn't want her.

Narcissa. I take it back, she is awful. Whatever devotion to her son she expresses she is clearly in line with at least some of Voldemort's aims with her reaction to Hermione. I'm thinking Draco never really stood a chance to be a decent human being.

She's a bigot, yes, certainly. But personally I'm not losing all sympathy for her here. Snape's oath seems to have lessened her worries about Draco greatly, but she still must be fearing for him, while he is clearly still quite confident at this point about it, and trying to escape her protectiveness. Someone as proud as Narcissa is always going to show her worst side in a confrontation like that one, she has a reputation to uphold, and of course Harry does hit her rather hard with the Lucius comments, probably harder than he realizes because he doesn't know about her fears Voldemort might kill or otherwise punish Lucius for his failure.

I felt badly for her briefly after the Lucius remark, until she hits back just as hard about Harry being reunited with Sirius.

I love our introduction to Fred and George's shop. They really are good businessmen and talented wizards even though we've been led to believe in the early books that they were screw ups.

It's interesting that Molly never brings up the matter of Harry having given them the initial loan, which Ron supposedly told her in a letter during book five. And she seems to have come to terms with it. It is an awesome scene ("Mr. Weasley and Mr. Weasley" is great), but I can't agree we've been led to believe that they were screw ups. Every time we've seen them, or very nearly, they were confident, capable and in control of the situation.

I didn't phrase that as well as I would have liked...I'll blame a lack of coffee. ;) I meant how Mrs. Weasley has always wanted them to be more like Percy and being disappointed with their behavior. It provides a nice counterpoint to this to see them be successful and later showing their mother how much they appreciate her. I think they are great sons.

Draco. Every time I read this chapter I'm reminded of how we've been so misled. Harry is right about Draco for the entire book. He gets the specifics wrong sometimes, but he knows this trip is important and doesn't let it go. Harry has been wrong so many times we dismiss it like everyone in the book does but he is so, so very right.

Yeah, Harry is like a broken clock that way. ;)

That's exactly it! He's right in the next book too about something big...so that's the second time a day, right? ;)
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I'm not sure if I noticed this before, but awesome Tolkien shout-out there. Legolas - 22/10/2010 09:58:27 PM 1620 Views
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But not at high school. Rebekah - 25/10/2010 07:57:44 PM 1609 Views
Also Camilla - 04/11/2010 09:29:47 AM 1568 Views
Also, Parseltongue - is Harry that thick, or is it a magic thing? Legolas - 25/10/2010 05:18:41 PM 1631 Views
I think it's a magic thing. Rebekah - 25/10/2010 05:34:09 PM 1616 Views
It can be learned actually. Dumbledore implies he knows it and Ron uses it in book 7 Dark Knight - 25/10/2010 05:55:28 PM 1582 Views
Huh. I completely missed that. Good thing we're doing a reread. Rebekah - 25/10/2010 05:57:38 PM 1583 Views
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Speaking of Dumbledore and Parseltongue. Cockatiel of Doom - 28/10/2010 05:03:10 AM 1855 Views
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Interesting how many of our remarks are along similar lines. *NM* Legolas - 25/10/2010 10:27:30 PM 770 Views
Indeed Camilla - 26/10/2010 09:20:43 AM 1623 Views
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Girls. Rebekah - 29/10/2010 05:54:25 PM 1609 Views
Re: My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. Camilla - 29/10/2010 09:06:16 PM 1569 Views
Re: My take on Ginny is rather different, I must say... at least this time around. Legolas - 29/10/2010 11:02:15 PM 1627 Views
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Re: Draco: Not as confident as he appears, surely. Camilla - 29/10/2010 09:01:56 PM 1741 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* Legolas - 27/10/2010 04:17:26 PM 699 Views
plot and writing. Camilla - 27/10/2010 10:30:14 PM 1629 Views
Re: plot and writing. Cockatiel of Doom - 28/10/2010 05:07:03 AM 1784 Views
Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. Legolas - 29/10/2010 02:08:35 PM 1648 Views
Re: Draco can dissemble rather well, just like his parents. Camilla - 29/10/2010 09:00:36 PM 1666 Views
Anything else? *NM* Legolas - 27/10/2010 04:17:42 PM 730 Views
Re: Anything else? Camilla - 27/10/2010 10:30:55 PM 1772 Views
Re: Anything else? Cockatiel of Doom - 28/10/2010 04:56:10 AM 1711 Views
Harry comments on that when in Snape's memories in book five. Legolas - 28/10/2010 10:42:08 AM 1570 Views
I wonder if that's actually true, though. Legolas - 28/10/2010 10:39:20 AM 1757 Views
Re: I wonder if that's actually true, though. Camilla - 28/10/2010 10:44:22 AM 1618 Views
It's more than that, though. Legolas - 28/10/2010 10:55:49 AM 1678 Views
Re: It's more than that, though. Camilla - 28/10/2010 11:48:19 AM 1513 Views
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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour Camilla - 29/10/2010 11:51:06 PM 1592 Views
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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour Seriana Sedai - 31/10/2010 09:07:19 PM 1686 Views
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Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour Camilla - 02/11/2010 07:20:26 PM 1345 Views
Re: Mr Weasley, Lupin, Fleur, Harry and Scrimgeour Cockatiel of Doom - 04/11/2010 04:03:02 AM 1587 Views
And Camilla - 04/11/2010 10:46:37 AM 1602 Views
Plotting and writing. Legolas - 29/10/2010 05:43:49 PM 1530 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. Camilla - 29/10/2010 08:52:34 PM 1685 Views
Anything else? *NM* Legolas - 29/10/2010 05:44:04 PM 765 Views
My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. Legolas - 29/10/2010 11:28:43 PM 1604 Views
Re: My comments on Potions class were heeded! Excellent. Camilla - 29/10/2010 11:52:12 PM 1685 Views
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the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks Camilla - 01/11/2010 02:08:32 PM 1494 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks Legolas - 01/11/2010 05:10:11 PM 1737 Views
Re: the twins, Hermione, Ron, Luna, Voldemort, Draco and Tonks Camilla - 01/11/2010 05:16:30 PM 1817 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* Legolas - 01/11/2010 02:01:13 PM 768 Views
Dumbledore, little girls and the house-elf issue again. Camilla - 01/11/2010 02:09:35 PM 1814 Views
Anything else? *NM* Legolas - 01/11/2010 02:01:27 PM 788 Views
I want to hear the joke about the hag, the Healer and the Mimbulus mimbletonia. *NM* Camilla - 01/11/2010 02:10:11 PM 1372 Views
Me too. And is a "hag" just an old witch, or something more specific? Legolas - 03/11/2010 09:52:12 PM 1691 Views
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Re: Me too. And is a "hag" just an old witch, or something more specific? StormCrow - 08/11/2010 01:54:59 PM 1628 Views
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Characters. *NM* Legolas - 03/11/2010 09:50:33 PM 911 Views
Malfoy, Ron & Hermione, Slughorn, Voldemort, Snape and Ginny. Camilla - 04/11/2010 12:12:57 AM 1656 Views
Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. Legolas - 04/11/2010 02:02:04 PM 1678 Views
Re: Draco, Slughorn, Snape, the romance. Camilla - 04/11/2010 02:16:17 PM 1698 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* Legolas - 03/11/2010 09:50:50 PM 804 Views
Harry wrong again, house elves, horcruxes, free will, well hidden clues and some irony *DH spoiler* Camilla - 03/11/2010 10:35:20 PM 1619 Views
Re: Stuff. Cockatiel of Doom - 04/11/2010 04:28:04 AM 1673 Views
Re: Stuff. *spoilers for book 7* Camilla - 04/11/2010 09:10:19 AM 1687 Views
This "we'll see in book seven" thing is getting old, but still that's what I have to say here... Legolas - 04/11/2010 01:23:01 PM 1524 Views
Yes, I think you are right Camilla - 04/11/2010 01:24:41 PM 1686 Views
Well, I'm back. Some comments inside. *DH Spoilers* StormCrow - 08/11/2010 02:28:11 PM 1661 Views
Anything else? *NM* Legolas - 03/11/2010 09:51:04 PM 784 Views
Chapters 25-27: The Seer Overheard, The Cave, The Lightning-Struck Tower Legolas - 05/11/2010 05:37:42 PM 1515 Views
Characters: Harry, Trelawney, Dumbledore, Draco, Snape. And maybe some other people. *NM* Legolas - 05/11/2010 05:38:19 PM 776 Views
Romilda, Snape, Trelawny, Draco, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Harry *spoilers book 7* Camilla - 05/11/2010 07:34:01 PM 1615 Views
Plotting and writing. Legolas - 05/11/2010 05:39:27 PM 1349 Views
*spoilers for book 7* Camilla - 05/11/2010 07:55:07 PM 1562 Views
Anything else? *NM* Legolas - 05/11/2010 05:39:43 PM 810 Views
I like how good magic is not flashy. Also, a Tolkien thing Camilla - 05/11/2010 07:55:27 PM 1602 Views
I didn't take the comparison as far, but the gate thing did remind me of Moria, yes. (DH spoilers) Legolas - 05/11/2010 10:03:16 PM 1840 Views
yes Camilla - 05/11/2010 10:06:43 PM 1586 Views
Chapters 28-30: Flight of the Prince, The Phoenix Lament, The White Tomb. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 02:13:12 PM 911 Views
Characters. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 02:13:25 PM 748 Views
Snape, Lupin, Hermione & Ron, the Order, Mrs Weasley & Fleur, Luna & Neville, Scrimgeour, Ginny *DH* Camilla - 09/11/2010 02:20:01 PM 1532 Views
Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) Legolas - 13/11/2010 12:03:16 AM 1763 Views
Re: Yes, I really didn't remember that... (book seven spoilers) Camilla - 13/11/2010 09:35:04 AM 1693 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 02:13:40 PM 877 Views
Spoilers. Camilla - 09/11/2010 02:26:38 PM 1532 Views
Re: Spoilers. StormCrow - 09/11/2010 04:49:06 PM 1587 Views
I'm assuming not even the Ministry knows 100% what she did. Legolas - 13/11/2010 12:26:14 AM 1683 Views
Very true. StormCrow - 15/11/2010 01:48:36 PM 1674 Views
Not much, no, but there's one fairly crucial mention. Legolas - 15/11/2010 04:37:23 PM 1643 Views
With my keen attention to detail, I somehow missed that. Another good catch! StormCrow - 15/11/2010 09:36:37 PM 1818 Views
Re: Spoilers. Legolas - 13/11/2010 12:22:22 AM 1792 Views
Re: Spoilers. Camilla - 13/11/2010 09:38:09 AM 1933 Views
Anything else? *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 02:13:53 PM 756 Views
We did the Harry Potter marathon thing on Sunday Camilla - 09/11/2010 02:28:08 PM 1654 Views
I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. Legolas - 09/11/2010 02:57:56 PM 1851 Views
Re: I vaguely remember something of the sort, yes. Camilla - 09/11/2010 02:58:56 PM 1556 Views
This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. StormCrow - 09/11/2010 04:34:33 PM 1676 Views
Re: This is definitely the most painfully altered of the movies. Camilla - 09/11/2010 04:36:29 PM 1657 Views
Very true. StormCrow - 09/11/2010 04:40:24 PM 1899 Views
Re: Very true. Camilla - 09/11/2010 04:43:45 PM 2129 Views
Agreed. StormCrow - 09/11/2010 04:53:46 PM 1668 Views
Re: Agreed. Camilla - 09/11/2010 04:58:59 PM 1770 Views
I just watched OotP again Saturday night... quite shocking there as well. Legolas - 15/11/2010 04:45:48 PM 1766 Views
Re: I just watched OotP again Saturday night... quite shocking there as well. Camilla - 15/11/2010 04:50:57 PM 1585 Views
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