Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited.
Camilla Send a noteboard - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM
Legolas' post about Emma and Rebekah's challenge got me thinking that there are a lot of "classics" floating around out there that certain people (myself included) may never have given a chance. This will be true, regardless of what you consider a "classic" to be. I leaned a little too heavily on a man named Cliff during school to avoid getting too far out of my comfort zone. Also, making something "required" reading usually took away some of it's appeal for me.
This may be more of a survey than a discussion, but I think it would be interesting none the less, especially with the amount of literature buffs around this board. Anyway, here we go...
How do you define a classic work or author?
It depends. One definition sticks to a certain period of Greek literature. And then there is the fudgy "canon". But I suppose the main test is whether something is still considered good after a hundred years or so. Though I think people are calling "classics" books from the 50s. It is very fuzzy.
What are your favorite classic works?
I love Aristophanes and Herodotos. And I really like Hamlet and Macbeth. And I'll read Austen any chance I get. Same with Woolf, really. Or Dumas. Or Wodehouse. I am writing my PhD on Dickens, so I suppose I'll have to mention him. And Thackeray and Stevenson. I quite like some of Zola. There is too much to mention. I real a lot of "canon" literature.
Edit: the more I think about this, the more books I feel that I should enter. There are so many good ones. Starting with Homer (Gilgamesh was alright, but not something I feel an immediate urge to re-read), on to Sapho, Aeschylos, Sohpocles, Plato, Xenophon, then Catullus, Vergil, Ovid. The mystery plays of the medieval period are worth your time. Geoffrey of Monmouth, Dante, Boccaccio, Chaucer, Cervantes' Don Quixote, Shakespeare, and Aphra Behn, Michel de Montaigne, Moliére, Racine, Fielding, Swift, Laurence Sterne, Goethe's Elective Affinities (not the tragic romantic stuff), Pope, Blake, Baudelaire, Lewis Carroll, Jules Verne, Nietzche (oh, my god, Nietzsche... or are we only talking about fiction here?), Ibsen and Strindberg, Henry James, Stevenson, Oscar Wilde, Thomas Mann, Gaston Leroux, Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky (within reason), Gogol, Bulgakov, Kafka, Joyce, Woolf, Proust, Walter Benjamin, Huxley, Orwell, Beckett, ... and with that I think we have reached the end of what I am comfortable calling a "classic". Although I will emphasise that I am associating wildly, and it is quite possible that I have forgotten someone I really like.
If you had to suggest just one, which would it be and why? (please not, "because it's good" )
Hmm. If you are not used to reading non-contemporary books, I think Dumas or Wodehouse, possibly Austen (but I think possibly that works better if you are a girl) is a good place to start, mainly because the difference will not be so great. Stevenson is always great. Or, you know, Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes stories. Or Poe. Those are a good place to start because they are not terribly challenging.
The same goes for Tolstoy. I am always amused by how War and Peace is touted like this difficult, intellectual novel when it is really a soap opera. It is interesting, and it is fun to read (if you get through the periods of thoughts on history, but those are short).
What have you staunchly refused to read that might be considered a classic?
Nothing, really. I don't staunchly refuse to read anything that I think might be good. I am not a great fan of Milton. And I think Robinson Crusoe is one of the more boring books in the history of the canon, but I read them before I made up my mind.
Why don't you want to read it?
n/a
I considered myself relatively well read, until I started hanging out around here at least.
I will answer the questions in the next post to get it started, despite what it might reveal about my literary experience (or lack thereof). Thanks!

*MySmiley*
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This message last edited by Camilla on 30/09/2010 at 09:30:50 PM
The Classics - general discussion / survey
30/09/2010 03:52:53 PM
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My own answers.
30/09/2010 04:38:33 PM
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Re: My own answers.
30/09/2010 09:02:08 PM
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Powdered Soup!
30/09/2010 09:23:51 PM
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30/09/2010 09:34:06 PM
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Re: Powdered Soup!
30/09/2010 10:07:20 PM
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Well, have you seen any of the Austen TV/movie adaptations, then?
30/09/2010 10:25:58 PM
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Oh yes. I even made the mistake of purchasing the new Pride and Prejudice for her.
01/10/2010 12:10:05 AM
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Cliff's notes
05/10/2010 08:05:56 PM
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Re: Cliff's notes
05/10/2010 09:21:06 PM
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A classic is really any book with enduring value.
30/09/2010 05:33:35 PM
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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value.
30/09/2010 06:46:02 PM
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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value.
30/09/2010 10:57:23 PM
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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value.
30/09/2010 11:39:16 PM
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I really need to read Kundera. I've heard nothing but praise for Unbearable Lightness. *NM*
30/09/2010 08:46:18 PM
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I could post you over a copy to borrow.
30/09/2010 08:58:08 PM
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That is very kind, but I have far too much to do to read non-school books, unfortunately.
30/09/2010 10:53:23 PM
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Haven't read any other Kundera, but yes, that one is very enjoyable. *NM*
30/09/2010 09:50:30 PM
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I found his other books to be pale copies of The Unbearable Lightness of Being. *NM*
30/09/2010 10:51:55 PM
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I study them, apparently.
30/09/2010 08:44:40 PM
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I wish I could do that.
30/09/2010 09:49:57 PM
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Less fun than you'd think.
30/09/2010 10:52:10 PM
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More admiration of your discipline than assuming you were having fun with it.
01/10/2010 12:31:06 AM
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Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited.
30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM
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I knew you would have a rather lengthy list. I was worried until the edit came through.
01/10/2010 02:26:34 AM
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Good survey.
30/09/2010 10:23:18 PM
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Agreed. edited
30/09/2010 10:37:48 PM
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But but but Milton is beautiful
30/09/2010 10:46:06 PM
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Sometimes.
30/09/2010 10:47:28 PM
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I'm glad you approve on the whole.
30/09/2010 11:12:00 PM
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I generally do.
30/09/2010 11:19:05 PM
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Excellent.
Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested...
30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM
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Re: Excellent.
Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested...
30/09/2010 11:43:20 PM
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Ah Cliff, I bow to thee
30/09/2010 11:30:41 PM
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Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee
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Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee
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Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee
01/10/2010 02:05:35 PM
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I will not list 300+ books here, I promise
01/10/2010 12:36:17 AM
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O'Connor is wonderful. But I am not sure many can appreciate her.
01/10/2010 02:50:54 AM
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Criminy, I thought I was done with essay questions years ago.
01/10/2010 01:39:56 AM
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the bf and I are going to do a "Paradise Lost" book club...
02/10/2010 08:29:38 AM
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