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Re: High emotions. Camilla Send a noteboard - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM
Harry: I feel quite sorry for him here. His paranoia is (for once) perfectly justifiable. It does take him rather beyond rationality in the beginning of the Christmas chapter, but he does bring up one good point: if Voldemort can see into his brain, he is getting way too much information on the Order.

Except that his theories about it are completely ludicrous. It sadly shows once again how badly he needs Hermione for any logical reasoning or thinking that doesn't involve what's standing right in front of him.

His self-involvement is really a little over the top, however. Can he really have forgotten that Voldemort possessed Ginny? It seems incredible.

Not really. Don't forget he's barely slept and eaten, has had those dreams while he did sleep, and is totally paranoid with all kinds of silly theories - perfectly natural to have forgotten that. I like how she puts him in his place and things in perspective with that "Lucky you", though.


Yes, I suppose this applies to the above as well. And while I agree he really does need Hermione, it is perhaps unfair of us to use this as an example.

The Twins: While what they say to Sirius is obviously very wrong, I like reading about their lashing out like that. It is so uncharacteristic of them, it is a clear sign of real emotional turmoil. And we are not really used to that from them. We did see it on the Quidditch pitch, but while a little out of proportion, their reaction there was perfectly justifiable. I like how they step out of line here.

Yeah. Ron's behaviour there is interesting too, though. Precisely because he's being so low-key - for him the worry about his father is mixed with what he's seen and heard from Harry. And Ginny's place as one of the "adults" is confirmed once more.


Definitely.

It is also interesting that it is Fred who says it. And later on, George goes with Ginny to embrace Molly, while Fred sits down and covers his face. It does harmonise with the pattern of a subtle distinction between the twins which we have seen before.

Oh good, I wasn't paying attention this time, good thing you were. ;)


:P Once you pointed it out it is one of the things I check. It is interesting. I hope the pattern holds. Until now I have lumped them together. I cannot even remember which one dies.

Phineas Nigellus: I really like him. Anyone who calls Harry in a temper tantrum a ``poor puffed-up popinjay'' gets points from me. And he is perfectly right, of course. Harry should know Dumbledore probably has his reasons for what he does.

I'm not quite sure whether we should assume his disobedience early on means he's really on the wrong side. Certainly he was in a rather Dark family, but does that mean he sympathizes with Voldemort?


Well, he calls him "The Dark Lord", but I doubt he is Evil. I think he just disapproves of Dumbledore's hippy ways.

Ginny: She is taking on the characteristics of Hermione to a certain extent. The savvy which Hermione has been developing over the last three books is also one of the main traits of Ginny. I am not complaining. It is also very much a defining characteristic of McGonnagall. I like Ginny's observation that Harry is stupid not to talk to her about the fear of being possessed by Voldemort.

I think it's just that Harry is finally starting to see the Ginny her brothers already knew. And so is the reader, because she's now part of the Second Trio. Which reminds me it's been a while since we've seen much of Luna, and that in turn reminds me I wanted to remark on her enchanted-lion-hat in the previous group of chapters. The first thought at reading that is of course "she's a bit out there", but then I realized something else: if it was easy to make such things, people wouldn't be so surprised by it. A subtle sign of her being quite skilled in at least one department.


Good point. There must be a reason why she is in Ravenclaw. She does fill the "eccentric professor" mould quite well. I don't remember whether we ever find out what she ends up doing as an adult. I hope it is academic.

Wow, did I ever go off-topic... oh well.


At least you stayed with the books.

Percy: He is such a bastard. It is quite shocking that his father almost dying did not shake him out of his insane ambition.

Keep in mind Dumbledore must've hushed the business up as much as he could. Percy may not have heard more than that his father had been wounded. As flimsy an excuse as that is.


Ah, good point. I saw that he had sent his sweater back and assumed they had told him that his father was in the hospital.

Ron: Giving Hermione perfume. I rest my briefcase.

Yes, this seems like a suggestion he actually knows he's in love with her, now... which makes it odd that he has to go out with someone else first in the next book.


Yes. Perhaps he is trying to suppress it so that he will not ruin friendship &c, &c? A position well known from oh so many American tv shows.

Neville: I feel so sorry for him. His grandmother is right, of course, and I wish Harry would have said something about them being heroes or some such, to indicate that he knew and that he did not think they were ridiculous in any way, before she rounded on Neville for supposedly being ashamed. I don't really think it is shame. I think it is pain. But I am not entirely sure. Perhaps it is a mixture.

I think Neville's never had a close friend and doesn't know how to confide such things in people - nor does he ever really get in a confidential tête-à-tête in which he could do so. Not shame, no.


Agreed.

Snape: He is so mean to Sirius here. It is perhaps the worst we see him -- even worse than the way he taunts the children, to my mind. Perhaps because it is so unjustified. He really drives home the point that you don't have to be a good guy to be a Good Guy.

I disagree, but then I don't share your adoration of Sirius. :P Let's not forget that Sirius was one of those who bullied him for no good reason back in the day - which Sirius evidently hasn't forgotten either, as he uses the old insult again. Surely being mean against someone your own level whom you can't stand and who can't stand you doesn't compare to taunting and cruelly mocking children.


I disagree. It is not "no good reason". We get one scene taken out of context. From what Lupin (I think? Or is it Sirius? Possibly both) says later, it seems like they were reacting negatively to the Dark Arts, which I think is justifiable. And Snape was not friendless and alone. He travelled with the older crowd of Slytherin no-goods. You cannot use that scene as a basis for judgement on Sirius' character as a whole.

I think the reason why I find this particular moment of Snape cruelty worse is that he is kicking someone who is down, and there is no good that could possibly come of it. Sirius has not done anything wrong in being confined like he does, in fact he is following the orders of their commander. At least when Snape taunts the children you can almost read into it disappointment that they do not work harder, do better at his favourite subject. I know, I know. It is a flimsy reason, but I think it springs from my original hypothesis (when I read the books the first few times ... before book 7) that Snape's cruelty is not a sign of Evil, but a backhanded attempt at helping the good side. Keep in mind, this theory was formed before book 5, and was not really put aside until book 7. I had convinced myself that the reason why he lets Draco get away with nothing is because he has no interest in seeing him learn.

I wonder whether he gains some sympathy with Harry through seeing his memories of his childhood. Surely it must help undo the image he has created of him. And the question about the dog: it may be wishful thinking, but I am not reading it as an unfriendly question. Especially as it is followed up what from Snape is quite a compliment. It makes sense for him to test his natural ability to resist before giving him the tools … a sort of baseline. And he does immediately explain how to get better at it after that. I dislike what the films did with this bit. It became all taunts and no teaching, which is not what happens in the book at all.

No, he's perhaps nicer to Harry than he's ever been. I think in the speech about how Harry should control himself and not let his emotions control you, there's a lot of regret, a lot of having learned these lessons the hard way. Snape as a child wasn't so perfectly in control at all, and it led to him hurling that epithet at Lily which cost him her friendship and his hopes of more. Perhaps he feels his role in the Secret Keeper thing was because of him acting on emotion, as well.


Secret Keeper thing? I don't remember this.

Actually, now that I think of it... I'm paraphrasing because I still don't have the English version, but when he says "Fools who wallow in sad memories and are easily provoked - weak people, that is - stand no chance against him. He will effortlessly enter your mind, Potter!". Surely that is personal experience talking. He's been there, he's had it happen to him - God knows he had enough sad memories to wallow in which Voldemort could use against him. And then he gave in and became a Death Eater, until the shock of Lily's death brought him back and he spent the next fifteen years trying to become harder and a better Occlumens so he could move against Voldemort and keep him out of his mind next time. And feeling bitter about the weak man he used to be.


I agree.

It's no wonder he's nicer to Harry than he's ever been - he is trying to protect Lily's son from what he went through himself and what led ultimately to Lily's death.

It is interesting to read other reactions into the description of Snape at this point than the interpretations furnished by Harry. Snape's pallor and anger when Harry gives him his mother and father in the mirror, for example. I assume Snape had not expected to run into Lily in her son's memories.

Definitely. This fits exactly with what I wrote above.


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Prefect picking. - 22/09/2010 03:10:04 AM 2025 Views
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Plot: things you've noticed. *NM* - 20/09/2010 08:04:13 AM 1069 Views
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Oh, there's more than that. - 20/09/2010 04:43:28 PM 2005 Views
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I remembered now: Barty Crouch Junior. - 20/09/2010 05:08:16 PM 1987 Views
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Oh yes: Assyria is a wizarding country. - 22/09/2010 09:42:27 AM 2044 Views
Er, that should've gone under anything else. Oh well. *NM* - 22/09/2010 09:46:30 AM 1196 Views
Yes - 22/09/2010 09:50:47 AM 1987 Views
Because that's the only modern meaning of "Assyrian". - 22/09/2010 09:58:03 AM 2145 Views
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True - 22/09/2010 12:00:12 PM 2060 Views
On their broomsticks, obviously *NM* - 23/09/2010 02:27:06 PM 1111 Views
In that part of the world I understand they use flying carpets, actually. *NM* - 23/09/2010 03:16:18 PM 1017 Views
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The title of chapter 13. - 27/09/2010 03:58:04 PM 2131 Views
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Le plot. - 24/09/2010 05:06:34 PM 1965 Views
Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 24/09/2010 07:08:45 PM 2186 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 02:16:53 PM 2085 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 02:30:31 PM 2075 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:55:50 PM 1987 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 03:59:33 PM 1926 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:11:01 PM 2183 Views
Re: Reaction -- the forming of the DA - 27/09/2010 04:14:39 PM 2077 Views
Anything else? - 24/09/2010 05:07:10 PM 1796 Views
Kittens! - 24/09/2010 07:09:28 PM 1921 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:54:26 PM 2050 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 01:57:30 PM 2072 Views
Re: Kittens! - 27/09/2010 02:02:55 PM 2148 Views
Monday 27 September: chapters 19-21 ~ Quidditch, Hagrid and thestrals. - 13/09/2010 09:28:27 PM 1949 Views
Les Characters - 27/09/2010 07:57:17 AM 1963 Views
Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 03:26:13 PM 2049 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 04:57:55 PM 2033 Views
Re: Ron, Umbridge, McGonagall, Hagrid, Cho, Hermione, Harry - 27/09/2010 05:08:10 PM 1910 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 03:54:42 AM 2029 Views
Re: Various characters you mentioned - 29/09/2010 09:41:16 AM 2083 Views
Plot - are we happy with what's happening? - 27/09/2010 07:58:33 AM 2000 Views
Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 02:43:41 PM 1971 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 03:36:39 PM 2048 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:03:17 PM 1975 Views
Re: Definitely some things of note! - 27/09/2010 04:07:20 PM 1832 Views
Mirroring - 27/09/2010 03:27:51 PM 1984 Views
Re: Mirroring - this is good. - 30/09/2010 02:43:21 PM 2050 Views
Any other thoughts? - 27/09/2010 07:59:14 AM 1880 Views
Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 03:28:10 PM 1868 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:08:42 PM 1862 Views
Re: Bigotry, the Sorting Hat and Giants - 27/09/2010 05:21:20 PM 1944 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 04:00:20 AM 1854 Views
Re: Gnomes - 29/09/2010 09:43:54 AM 1998 Views
Re: Gnomes - 30/09/2010 03:27:37 AM 2030 Views
Wednesday 29 September: chapters 22-24 - 13/09/2010 09:29:12 PM 2076 Views
Characters and characterisation *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:43:38 PM 1056 Views
High emotions. - 29/09/2010 05:11:07 PM 2025 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 08:21:46 PM 1970 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:51:14 PM 2035 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:06:43 PM 1949 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:28:58 PM 1938 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:31:04 PM 1948 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 11:35:52 PM 1979 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 09:18:42 PM 1782 Views
Re: High emotions. - 29/09/2010 10:05:32 PM 1994 Views
Re: High emotions. - 30/09/2010 04:04:31 AM 1969 Views
Themes and progression of themes. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:11 PM 1005 Views
A bit of a respite on that score - 29/09/2010 05:18:46 PM 1974 Views
Plotting and plot continuity *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:32 PM 1050 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 05:11:43 PM 2209 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:17:02 PM 2057 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 29/09/2010 09:58:03 PM 2096 Views
Re: Plotting and plot continuity - 30/09/2010 02:36:25 PM 2094 Views
Other things of note. *NM* - 29/09/2010 04:44:51 PM 1074 Views
A Question - 29/09/2010 05:12:06 PM 2008 Views
Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 09:19:53 PM 2010 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 29/09/2010 10:35:51 PM 1835 Views
Re: Rowling is having fun once more, this time with St. Mungo's. - 30/09/2010 03:42:21 AM 2017 Views
The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 05:21:17 AM 2003 Views
Re: The Lockheart encounter is great too. - 30/09/2010 02:50:18 PM 2040 Views
Friday 1 October: chapters 25-27 - Sorry I'm late. - 13/09/2010 09:29:58 PM 1937 Views
Plot/action: getting exciting? *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:25:48 AM 1083 Views
Beginning of the end - 02/10/2010 07:55:36 PM 2113 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:45:32 PM 1996 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 05/10/2010 10:52:28 PM 2063 Views
Re: Beginning of the end - 06/10/2010 01:33:57 AM 1983 Views
Other things. *NM* - 02/10/2010 11:26:06 AM 994 Views
The way reactions are given, and an observation about occlumency. - 02/10/2010 07:55:48 PM 2087 Views
The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:18:04 PM 2190 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 04/10/2010 08:20:15 PM 1970 Views
Re: The least important of your points... - 05/10/2010 07:41:32 PM 2110 Views
Monday 4 October: chapters 28-30 - bad memories, dramatic exits, and large brothers. - 13/09/2010 09:32:03 PM 2011 Views
Plotting and themes. - 04/10/2010 06:32:16 PM 2011 Views
family and bigotry - 04/10/2010 07:41:22 PM 2042 Views
Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 02:07:06 AM 2012 Views
Re: Weasley Mayhem. And stuff. - 05/10/2010 09:06:04 AM 1908 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:27:55 PM 2028 Views
Re: family and bigotry - 05/10/2010 11:37:11 PM 1963 Views
Anything else? - 04/10/2010 06:32:43 PM 2037 Views
portaits - 04/10/2010 07:41:49 PM 1829 Views
I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:19:03 PM 2081 Views
Re: I'm wondering if Dumbledore is camping out in his office. - 05/10/2010 11:28:37 PM 2103 Views
That would be awesome. - 06/10/2010 02:28:33 AM 2007 Views
Wednesday 6 October: chapters 31-33 - OWLs, fights and other such hijinks. - 13/09/2010 09:32:40 PM 2033 Views
Plot! Theme and Action! - 06/10/2010 08:14:21 PM 1964 Views
The trap is set - 06/10/2010 08:36:03 PM 1979 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:37:17 PM 1961 Views
Re: The trap is set - 06/10/2010 09:50:15 PM 2054 Views
Anything else you want to waffle about. - 06/10/2010 08:14:50 PM 2015 Views
exams - 06/10/2010 08:36:35 PM 1968 Views
Friday 8 October: chapters 34-36 - The big fight and the big farewell. - 13/09/2010 09:33:45 PM 2141 Views
Characters: Death Eaters, Order of the Phoenix, and the children. - 08/10/2010 11:19:58 AM 2086 Views
Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 08/10/2010 07:52:01 PM 1994 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 01:00:00 AM 2202 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 09/10/2010 10:23:24 AM 1889 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 03:40:46 AM 1864 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 10/10/2010 10:54:31 AM 2079 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Neville, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lupin - 12/10/2010 02:46:40 AM 2115 Views
First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 01:11:54 AM 2102 Views
Re: First big appearance for Bellatrix. - 09/10/2010 10:13:26 AM 2056 Views
Action. And more action. - 08/10/2010 11:20:49 AM 2009 Views
The tragedy - 08/10/2010 07:51:29 PM 2108 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:42:53 AM 1893 Views
Re: The tragedy - 09/10/2010 12:49:31 AM 2069 Views
I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 01:14:58 AM 1802 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 09/10/2010 10:16:25 AM 1940 Views
Re: I'm wondering what would have happened... - 10/10/2010 03:22:18 AM 2173 Views
Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 11/10/2010 12:51:06 AM 2018 Views
Re: Book 7 spoilers ( I know they are implied, but I'd feel bad if I didn't warn) - 12/10/2010 02:48:53 AM 1962 Views
Other things. - 08/10/2010 11:21:12 AM 1955 Views
Re: Other things. - 08/10/2010 07:52:45 PM 2014 Views
Well. - 10/10/2010 03:26:01 AM 1986 Views
Monday 11 October: chapters 37-38 ~ The end of innocence? - 13/09/2010 09:35:14 PM 2102 Views
How are our characters left? - 11/10/2010 05:25:39 PM 2038 Views
Plot and theme: - 11/10/2010 05:26:37 PM 1975 Views
Prophecy, choice, house elves and knowledge. - 11/10/2010 11:50:46 PM 2143 Views
Any other thoughts? - 11/10/2010 05:27:17 PM 1858 Views
One minor and one major disappointment. - 11/10/2010 11:51:08 PM 2180 Views
Re: One minor and one major disappointment. - 12/10/2010 02:53:28 AM 2188 Views
General comments. - 13/09/2010 09:36:13 PM 2054 Views
The first time I read this book I didn't like it much. - 14/09/2010 04:23:43 AM 2018 Views
It was one of my favourite books from the get-go. - 14/09/2010 09:08:03 AM 2152 Views
The structure of this book is different from the earlier ones - 15/09/2010 09:55:26 AM 2189 Views
What do we think of Rowling's writing skills in this book? - 22/09/2010 12:54:14 PM 2005 Views
Much improved - 22/09/2010 03:08:51 PM 1955 Views
How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 11/10/2010 05:28:23 PM 1935 Views
Re: How do you feel about the book as a whole? - 12/10/2010 03:00:01 AM 2153 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 13/09/2010 09:36:56 PM 1986 Views
Your links don't work - 14/09/2010 10:37:32 AM 1930 Views
Fixed. *NM* - 14/09/2010 10:46:08 AM 1155 Views
I just copied old ones. - 14/09/2010 06:32:50 PM 2024 Views
Do we need to have another break? - 27/09/2010 08:00:04 AM 2042 Views
Before the next book, you mean? - 27/09/2010 01:05:14 PM 1923 Views
But now I want to keep reading them. </whine> - 29/09/2010 04:02:57 AM 1909 Views
We'll start Book 6 on Monday 18 October. - 11/10/2010 05:29:21 PM 2101 Views

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