Agreed. Snape is one of the most fascinating characters I have ever read
Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 25/08/2010 05:57:12 PM
Snape: I felt a little sorry for him during the midnight encounter with Moody. I like his confidence that Dumbledore trusts him. I am not such a fan of how he whispers menacingly to Harry while the latter is chopping his vegetables and crushing things -- as an adult man he should be above taunting and threatening a kid. But still. I like Snape. Oddly.
Was Snape brave? Yes of course. Was he on the good side? Yes. Was he a good person? Most definitely not. His behavior toward the students, especially Neville, is horrible. He's just a mean, evil little oily snotrag
I think it is down to Snape being a wonderful example of the very non-Hollywood good guy. I have had too much of the horrible paragons of goodness who look good and have noble motives. Snape differs from these in that he is an interesting character. Precisely because he is not good through and through, his motivation becomes interesting.
But liking him? No. During this re-read, I have seen over and over again his despicable attitude toward weak people like Neville. I just want to punch him in the face
Formerly Mat Bloody Cauthon on Wotmania, blessed be its name
The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Four Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
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Chapters 1-3: A different beginning
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Early characters
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Early plotting.
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Re: Early plotting.
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It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books)
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Re: Early plotting.
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Any other comments/observations
16/08/2010 09:33:34 AM
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Mob mentality and British euroscepticism.
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people in groups and baffling violence. And the godawful recaps
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Yeah, I agree about the recaps, they're pointless at this point. *NM*
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Good news! HP really caught on after this book and so the last books don't have a recap! *NM*
16/08/2010 03:27:24 PM
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Chapters 4-6 - The Weasleys
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Characters - a few new ones
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Also on the topic of Amos' talk of Cedric and Harry... (spoilers for end of book)
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Re: Also on the topic of Amos' talk of Cedric and Harry... (spoilers for end of book)
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Oh, I can think of a few more things that will prove relevant. But that's for tomorrow. *NM*
17/08/2010 12:51:50 PM
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And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning...
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Plotting - anything of note?
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The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying...
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I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM*
17/08/2010 12:40:45 PM
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Any other comments/observations.
17/08/2010 08:24:20 AM
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Chapters 7-9 - The Quidditch World Cup and Death Eaters
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Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people.
18/08/2010 12:44:16 AM
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Plotting
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Other stuff.
18/08/2010 12:45:13 AM
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Krum Catching the Snitch
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It makes a certain amount of sense, I think...
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Clothes and other schools
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There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine.
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Chapters 10-12: Back to Hogwarts and the Tri-Wizard Tournament. *NM*
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Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. *NM*
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Any other comments, observations or revelations? *NM*
19/08/2010 11:23:48 AM
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There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for.
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Chapters 13-15: First lessons, and the arrival of the foreign guests *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, Neville, Moody, first impressions of Karkarov and Maxime *NM*
20/08/2010 11:49:04 AM
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Hagrid, Rita, Moody, Neville, Harry, Hedwig, Cedric, McGonnagall, Hermione and Madamme Maxime
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
20/08/2010 11:51:43 AM
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Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that).
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Anything else to add? *NM*
20/08/2010 11:52:05 AM
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Yes. Five things, actually. Magic, Snape, idiocy, apparating while presumed guilty aaand evil films.
20/08/2010 01:05:06 PM
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Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it.
20/08/2010 01:46:09 PM
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Chapters 16-18: The Tri-Wizard Tournament begins *NM*
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Characters: The Champions, Hagrid, Karkarov, and of course Rita Skeeter in person *NM*
21/08/2010 01:10:53 PM
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Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita
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Oh, you're right, it is then. I thought you meant she said it to Harry.
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21/08/2010 05:41:44 PM
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The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series.
23/08/2010 09:20:18 PM
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Definitely true
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Re: Definitely true
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Plotting and writing.
21/08/2010 01:12:24 PM
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plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole
21/08/2010 01:39:10 PM
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Other comments, small details you noticed,...? *NM*
21/08/2010 01:12:53 PM
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House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter.
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21/08/2010 04:59:55 PM
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I love the bouillabaisse thing.
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I associate blancmange more with Britain than with anywhere else...
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Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing.
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No, no, the pudding and the bouillabaisse are two different things.
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Hermione really comes into her own in this book.
27/08/2010 11:30:38 PM
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Agreed, but spending really all her time with those two boys does make it easier...
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Chapters 19-21: The first task and House-Elves at Hogwarts *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Moody, Dobby and Winky,...
23/08/2010 10:40:21 AM
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The trio, Neville and the House-elves.
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Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves.
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Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts.
23/08/2010 11:19:21 AM
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Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts.
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Plotting and writing: the first task and other events *NM*
23/08/2010 10:41:20 AM
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Good plotting in this section
23/08/2010 11:08:50 AM
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Anything else you want to comment on? *NM*
23/08/2010 10:41:39 AM
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I love that there is a book called Men Who Love Dragons Too Much. *NM*
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Chapters 22-24: The - rather eventful - Yule Ball *NM*
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Characters: The Trio, Champions and their dates, Karkarov, Hagrid and Olympe,...
24/08/2010 11:09:33 AM
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Ron and Hermione, mainly.
24/08/2010 11:47:49 AM
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Makes sense.
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Re: Makes sense.
24/08/2010 05:00:59 PM
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Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM*
24/08/2010 11:11:49 AM
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Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath
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Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM*
24/08/2010 11:12:33 AM
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Gender roles, Dobby, national stereotypes, creepy magic and gobbledegook.
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Re: Gender roles, Dobby, national stereotypes, creepy magic and gobbledegook.
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Re: Gender roles, Dobby, national stereotypes, creepy magic and gobbledegook.
24/08/2010 04:15:15 PM
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Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius.
24/08/2010 02:23:37 PM
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Lasso comment?
24/08/2010 04:20:35 PM
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When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang.
24/08/2010 04:27:47 PM
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Ah. Hehe. Yes.
24/08/2010 04:30:34 PM
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It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator.
24/08/2010 04:45:34 PM
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Holy crap.
25/08/2010 02:44:57 PM
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Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative...
25/08/2010 03:06:25 PM
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Chapters 25-27: The second task and Padfoot's return
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Characters: The Trio, Krum, Fleur, Sirius,... *NM*
25/08/2010 11:18:49 AM
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Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius.
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I'm a bit worried about people's reactions to Snape during these discussions
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Agreed. Snape is one of the most fascinating characters I have ever read
25/08/2010 05:57:12 PM
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Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight.
26/08/2010 10:54:11 AM
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Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM*
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Merpeople and the second task.
25/08/2010 11:34:40 AM
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And something else I never understood about the second task
25/08/2010 02:32:51 PM
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That's a good point, yeah...
25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM
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Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol
25/08/2010 03:57:48 PM
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Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
25/08/2010 05:23:30 PM
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Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
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Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
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Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
26/08/2010 11:09:20 AM
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Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
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Marauder's Map.
05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM
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Other comments. *NM*
25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM
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Two completely unrelated things.
25/08/2010 05:24:26 PM
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25/08/2010 05:42:20 PM
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Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM*
16/08/2010 09:37:22 AM
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Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM*
26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM
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Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville
26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM
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Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM*
26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM
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Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues.
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Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues.
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Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues.
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Chapters 31-33: The third task
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Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM*
27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM
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Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel
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Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM*
27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM
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Stuff happens.
27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM
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Riddle Family.
05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM
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Anything else to add? *NM*
27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM
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Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM*
16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM
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Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM*
28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM
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Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione
28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM
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Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM*
28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM
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Revelations and then some
28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM
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Any other thoughts? *NM*
28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM
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Two questions and one other thing.
28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM
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The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations
16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM
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What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book?
16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM
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I think she has more room to display her talent in this book.
28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM
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Suggestions for the re-read.
16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM
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Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing?
17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM
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When should we start the next book? And at which pace?
28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM
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