It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 24/08/2010 04:45:34 PM
I am curious. You can't just mention airily that there is a Dutch pun and that it is a good one and leave it at that! What is the Dutch version?
The Dutch version has "Vlaamse reus" (a kind of rabbits, and you may recognize the second word from Rebekah's last name - it's indeed a breed of very large and sometimes really enormous rabbits) and "Vlaamse gaai" (some bird), so it managed to preserve the ethnic link in the names while still having an animal in more or less the same category as the guinea pig, and a bird. Thus allowing the preservation of the comment of Neville's guinea pig still having feathers.
This translator seems to have an obsession with the word "Vlaams" which I'm not sure I find entirely flattering. He also translated "Gobbledygook" by "Koetervlaams" - the normal word is "Koeterwaals", which he then changed with a pun on Belgian linguistic politics that I don't really see the point of.
Not that I know of.
In translation it's a pun on the Dutch national radio and television news network, which is amusing but seems a bit misguided - HP is set in Britain, obviously you have to translate things and try to conserve the jokes, but references to the Netherlands that aren't there in the original don't seem like a good idea.
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Mob mentality and British euroscepticism.
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Good news! HP really caught on after this book and so the last books don't have a recap! *NM*
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Also on the topic of Amos' talk of Cedric and Harry... (spoilers for end of book)
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Oh, I can think of a few more things that will prove relevant. But that's for tomorrow.
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And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning...
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I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM*
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It makes a certain amount of sense, I think...
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There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine.
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Yes. Five things, actually. Magic, Snape, idiocy, apparating while presumed guilty aaand evil films.
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Definitely true
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I love the bouillabaisse thing.
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No, no, the pudding and the bouillabaisse are two different things.
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Hermione really comes into her own in this book.
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Good plotting in this section
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Makes sense.
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Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM*
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Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM*
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Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius.
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Lasso comment?
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When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang.
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Ah. Hehe. Yes.
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It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator.
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Holy crap.
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Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative...
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That's a good point, yeah...
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Marauder's Map.
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Other comments. *NM*
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Two completely unrelated things.
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Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM*
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Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM*
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Stuff happens.
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Riddle Family.
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Anything else to add? *NM*
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Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM*
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Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM*
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Revelations and then some
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I think she has more room to display her talent in this book.
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Suggestions for the re-read.
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Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing?
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When should we start the next book? And at which pace?
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