There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 19/08/2010 04:23:16 PM
Coming, unsurprisingly, from Malfoy. And immediately the school is made quite suspicious - teaches Dark Arts, nobody knows where it is, Malfoy considered sending his son there. Hermione's supposition that it has to be in the far north seems to be somewhat disproven by what we'll see later - all named students and the headmaster have Slavic names, not Scandinavian ones, and Krum at least is Bulgarian.
Still about the wizarding schools, Dumbledore claims those three are the "largest wizarding schools in Europe" - or at least, were back in the Middle Ages. Likely that just means they are now among the oldest and most prestigious schools in Europe, not necessarily the largest, and certainly not the only ones. Although it does seem there isn't generally more than one school per country or per few countries. Durmstrang is apparently an international school, more than the others - I don't remember if we see the Durmstrang guests speaking any foreign language further on, but I don't imagine Draco Malfoy has all that much foreign language knowledge.
Bill interrupting Percy when for once in his life the guy is about to say something interesting: I'm curious what it is that said law did say about vampires. Perhaps just that they mustn't be exterminated or indeed killed without reason, in which case you have to wonder why that would be only in the twelfth paragraph. If I recall correctly, the only mention of a vampire later on in the series depicts them as really quite harmless and definitely not in need of extermination of any kind. More building up of the non-human races theme.
A Sorting ceremony that gives some limited data about the student numbers. Vague enough that it isn't enormously helpful, but our general idea of roughly 10 per house per year seems to fit the description.
Still about the wizarding schools, Dumbledore claims those three are the "largest wizarding schools in Europe" - or at least, were back in the Middle Ages. Likely that just means they are now among the oldest and most prestigious schools in Europe, not necessarily the largest, and certainly not the only ones. Although it does seem there isn't generally more than one school per country or per few countries. Durmstrang is apparently an international school, more than the others - I don't remember if we see the Durmstrang guests speaking any foreign language further on, but I don't imagine Draco Malfoy has all that much foreign language knowledge.
Bill interrupting Percy when for once in his life the guy is about to say something interesting: I'm curious what it is that said law did say about vampires. Perhaps just that they mustn't be exterminated or indeed killed without reason, in which case you have to wonder why that would be only in the twelfth paragraph. If I recall correctly, the only mention of a vampire later on in the series depicts them as really quite harmless and definitely not in need of extermination of any kind. More building up of the non-human races theme.
A Sorting ceremony that gives some limited data about the student numbers. Vague enough that it isn't enormously helpful, but our general idea of roughly 10 per house per year seems to fit the description.
The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Four Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
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Early characters
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Early plotting.
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It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books)
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Re: Early plotting.
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Any other comments/observations
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Mob mentality and British euroscepticism.
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people in groups and baffling violence. And the godawful recaps
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Yeah, I agree about the recaps, they're pointless at this point. *NM*
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Good news! HP really caught on after this book and so the last books don't have a recap! *NM*
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Also on the topic of Amos' talk of Cedric and Harry... (spoilers for end of book)
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Oh, I can think of a few more things that will prove relevant. But that's for tomorrow. *NM*
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And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning...
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The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying...
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I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM*
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Chapters 7-9 - The Quidditch World Cup and Death Eaters
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Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people.
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Plotting
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Other stuff.
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Krum Catching the Snitch
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It makes a certain amount of sense, I think...
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There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine.
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Any other comments, observations or revelations? *NM*
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There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for.
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that).
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Anything else to add? *NM*
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Yes. Five things, actually. Magic, Snape, idiocy, apparating while presumed guilty aaand evil films.
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Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it.
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Oh, you're right, it is then. I thought you meant she said it to Harry.
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The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series.
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Definitely true
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Plotting and writing.
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plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole
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Other comments, small details you noticed,...? *NM*
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House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter.
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I love the bouillabaisse thing.
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I associate blancmange more with Britain than with anywhere else...
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Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing.
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No, no, the pudding and the bouillabaisse are two different things.
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Hermione really comes into her own in this book.
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Agreed, but spending really all her time with those two boys does make it easier...
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Chapters 19-21: The first task and House-Elves at Hogwarts *NM*
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The trio, Neville and the House-elves.
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Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts.
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Plotting and writing: the first task and other events *NM*
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Good plotting in this section
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Anything else you want to comment on? *NM*
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I love that there is a book called Men Who Love Dragons Too Much. *NM*
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Chapters 22-24: The - rather eventful - Yule Ball *NM*
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Ron and Hermione, mainly.
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Makes sense.
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Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM*
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Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath
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Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM*
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Gender roles, Dobby, national stereotypes, creepy magic and gobbledegook.
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Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius.
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Lasso comment?
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When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang.
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Ah. Hehe. Yes.
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It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator.
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Holy crap.
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Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative...
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Chapters 25-27: The second task and Padfoot's return
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I'm a bit worried about people's reactions to Snape during these discussions
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Agreed. Snape is one of the most fascinating characters I have ever read
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Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight.
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Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM*
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Merpeople and the second task.
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And something else I never understood about the second task
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That's a good point, yeah...
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Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol
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Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book.
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Marauder's Map.
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Other comments. *NM*
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Two completely unrelated things.
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Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM*
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Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville
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Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM*
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Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues.
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Chapters 31-33: The third task
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Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM*
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Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel
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Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM*
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Stuff happens.
27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM
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Riddle Family.
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Anything else to add? *NM*
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Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM*
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Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM*
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Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione
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Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM*
28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM
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Revelations and then some
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Any other thoughts? *NM*
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Two questions and one other thing.
28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM
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The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations
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What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book?
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I think she has more room to display her talent in this book.
28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM
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Suggestions for the re-read.
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Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing?
17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM
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When should we start the next book? And at which pace?
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