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A lot of pent-up anger there, I sense *NM* Camilla Send a noteboard - 19/08/2010 09:24:51 AM

It's not as if Krum really has much of a choice at that point. Lynch sees it first and races for it. What is Krum going to do? Somehow manage to block Lynch again and again until the Snitch is lost again, with blood streaming all across his face and him barely seeing what he's doing? If the referee stops play and lets him get medical attention, Lynch can keep his eye on the Snitch all that time and make another dash for it as soon as the game restarts. Then it's back to blocking him, while praying that Bulgaria can score a second goal before Ireland scores its eighteenth - not exactly a likely event. Then as soon as that happens, he has until Ireland's next score to get to the Snitch ahead of Lynch.

Fairly unrealistic, all that, I think, and he has to make the decision in a matter of seconds.

I think blocking is exactly what a world-class athlete would try to do if he cared at all about winning. Obviously it's would be silly to debate the motivations of an imaginary athlete, but, to me anyway, intentionally losing for the sake of making the final score look close in a world championship just doesn't ring true.


Except that they're down 17-1. What are the odds that it'll be 17-2 before it's 18-1? Not good, I'd think. Especially considering the overheating tempers and the tendency of the Bulgarians to give penalties away.

I still can't imagine a team in a world championship just giving up because the odds aren't in their favor.


Although considering the info we're given beforehand about the two teams - Krum being the best player, but Ireland having an excellent team and divine Chasers - it's not as bad as it could have been.

I agree. I think it's the combination of the bet and Krum giving up on his team so quickly.


No, do tell, it's a fun topic.

Okay ;)

1- The makeup of the teams is silly. Real sports teams don't just fill their starting positions- they have a second squad against whom the starters practice so they can simulate game conditions. Also, the reserves keep their skills sharpened in case they are needed. This way, you don't have to grab Dean Thomas and say, "Hey, I know you haven't practiced, but you flew well for an hour five months ago, so how'd you like to play in an important match this Saturday with one or two practices under your belt?'

2- Do they have reserves or not? In one match (can't remember which book- maybe 3) the commentator refers to a player as "a reserve last year", but we never see or hear of any reserves, unless "reserves" are the people who almost made the team and get called on in a pinch without having practiced.

3- JKR can't seem to make up her mind if players have to try out or not.

Book one: Harry is placed on the Gryffindor without a tryout. He works out with Wood one time, and then joins the team which, apparently, chose its entire team except for the position of seeker. What were they going to do? Not have one? Even if all the players who try out are bad, you choose the least bad of all of them and then hope a better player comes along and beats him/her out.

Book two: no tryouts. The team is just... the team.

Book three: no tryouts.

Book four: No Quidditch (Which is silly because the entire 'season' only consists of six matches. They could have scheduled it around the whopping three Tri-wizard events that only involved a whopping four people (and only two quidditch players). And with Krum visiting, what better opportunity for 'international cooperation' than to have him visit a few practices, maybe guest referee, or just be there to watch the matches?

Book five: The only tryout is for Keeper, which is the only open position. Angelina says she wants "the team" there when they choose the new keeper.

Book six: McGonagall appoints Harry as captain, and informs him of all the players who have already signed up for tryouts. Katie Bell (I think) warns Harry to not "start" picking his favorites. The way she phrases it, coupled with McGonagall already compiling a tryout list implies that tryouts are standard procedure. Later, when Dean fills in for Katie, Seamus is a little bit angry. Have Dean and Seamus tried out every year, and this is the first time we're hearing about it? Or was Ron's tryout in OotP the first-ever tryout?

4- Keeper tryouts are silly Each person defends five shots and that's it? Baloney. You might do that to eliminate the worst players, but then you get two squads worth of hopefuls out there and see how they do in game situations.

5- Quidditch practices are a bit silly if you don't have a second squad against whom to practice. Sure, you can do passing drills, and the chasers can attack the goal, but that's about it. You don't get to practice as a true "team". And do you really want your beaters practicing hitting bludgers at your star chasers again and again? And if the seeker is just going to release the snitch and practice circling around waiting for it to appear while the chasers attack the goal (which we are told is what he does), why does he even need to be at the team practice? He can do that anytime he likes, and doesn't need anyone else there.

6 Why does it take almost the entire school year to play six freaking games?

Is that enough nitpicking? As I said, not a single thing I've mentioned really means anything in the big picture, but they all bug me.
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Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. Legolas - 26/08/2010 10:54:11 AM 1689 Views
Re: Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:21:59 AM 1815 Views
Makes more sense now. Seriana Sedai - 28/08/2010 05:00:26 AM 1758 Views
Re: Makes more sense now. Camilla - 28/08/2010 09:28:07 AM 1819 Views
Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM* Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:19:47 AM 966 Views
Merpeople and the second task. Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:34:40 AM 1872 Views
And something else I never understood about the second task Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 02:32:51 PM 1875 Views
That's a good point, yeah... Legolas - 25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM 1768 Views
Maybe they should have had a magical big screen projection of what was going on in the lake lol Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 03:57:48 PM 1824 Views
Re: That's a good point, yeah... Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:39:48 PM 1759 Views
Re: Merpeople and the second task. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:38:55 PM 1755 Views
Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:23:30 PM 1817 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Deadsy - 25/08/2010 05:40:39 PM 1882 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:42:52 PM 1771 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Legolas - 26/08/2010 11:09:20 AM 1783 Views
Re: Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:17:36 AM 1928 Views
Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM 1819 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:09:48 AM 2016 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:44:16 PM 1839 Views
Other comments. *NM* Legolas - 25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM 944 Views
Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:24:26 PM 1884 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:36:29 PM 1849 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:42:20 PM 1961 Views
Need a cough drop dear? Dark Knight - 25/08/2010 05:53:26 PM 1838 Views
Re: Need a cough drop dear? Camilla - 25/08/2010 05:55:41 PM 1827 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Legolas - 26/08/2010 11:13:07 AM 1928 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. Camilla - 26/08/2010 11:18:42 AM 1797 Views
Second task. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:30:01 AM 1858 Views
Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:37:22 AM 894 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM 978 Views
Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM 1833 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:22:14 PM 1831 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:45:58 PM 1839 Views
Also Camilla - 26/08/2010 10:45:57 PM 1886 Views
Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 949 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 1842 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2067 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 1879 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 1829 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 1864 Views
Yes. Elaine - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 1816 Views
Everything else. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 950 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 1717 Views
More owl comments. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 1825 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 1768 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 989 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 1736 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 1730 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 1796 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 1835 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 1921 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 951 Views
Stuff happens. Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 1776 Views
So it does. Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 1895 Views
Re: So it does. Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 1817 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 1912 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 1816 Views
Riddle Family. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 1793 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... Legolas - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 1905 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 1908 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 940 Views
Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 1954 Views
Re: Naturally Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 1647 Views
Re: Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 2105 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 932 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 955 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 1862 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 1789 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 2130 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 930 Views
Revelations and then some Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 1815 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Dark Knight - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 2173 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2041 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 1791 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 1918 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 970 Views
Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 1930 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 2127 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 1824 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 1840 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 1854 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 1927 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 1870 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 1960 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 1978 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? StormCrow - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 1815 Views
Well. Yes. Rebekah - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 1868 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! aria - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 1850 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* StormCrow - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 952 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 2086 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 2064 Views
School started and that threw me off. aria - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 1893 Views
Mine was school as well. Seriana Sedai - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 1908 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. Cockatiel of Doom - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 1903 Views
That would be good Camilla - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 1803 Views
I like that idea. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 1852 Views
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