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The former can come from being inundated with the latter. Myrdhyn Send a noteboard - 18/08/2010 07:36:52 PM
but I think you misunderstood my original point (or chose to replace it with one that suited you better, so that you could poke Eurosocialism).

I was talking about the action without hope of success, not about not attempting it because where you are at is fine enough.
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How can you know you have no hope of success until you've tried with every ounce (milliliter? hehe) of effort you've got. You can't, and the drive to give up comes from being coddled far too much.
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Who's lumping several societies into one? The European Union, most likley. *NM* - 18/08/2010 05:54:43 PM 433 Views
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The former can come from being inundated with the latter. - 18/08/2010 07:36:52 PM 960 Views
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Re: who is talking about giving up?? - 18/08/2010 08:15:31 PM 872 Views
"Worked" being a relative term, of course. *NM* - 19/08/2010 04:20:23 AM 464 Views
Allow me to respectfully disagree - 23/08/2010 09:47:38 AM 949 Views
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I like that one too. - 18/08/2010 02:54:18 PM 1084 Views
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