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Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM
I have always thought it was a little naïve of Harry to assume that Sirius and Lupin, who have, after all, fought a war, had not killed anyone; but come to think of it they always use "stupefy" and "expelliarmus" and the like later on, and "avid kedavra" is forbidden -- are Lupin and Sirius really planning on using a forbidden curse in the Shrieking Shack? I found it strange to place so much emphasis on not wanting them to become killers (yes, I am jaded by television), but it makes sense in the wider context of horcruxes and how the series develops.

And the later books do indeed make clear that the good side doesn't kill, excepting perhaps Moody and Barty Crouch, who are both depicted as taking a more ruthless approach not generally appreciated by those who follow Dumbledore.
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