Things get to a very carefully plotted climax, which will continue in the next three chapters. Masks are finally falling off, and riddles solved. Thoughts?
Prophecies:
Since I have been noting all the inadvertent prophecies of Trelawny's, I should probably mention Harry's prophecy of Buckbeak flying off free as well. Yet another accidentally true one.
Trelawny's own (bona fide) prophecy should probably also be mentioned: it is another excellent misdirection, of course. We are meant to assume that the "chained these twelve years" refers to Sirius in Azkaban.
And I like her reaction to Harry's confronting her with her own prophecy: "I would certainly not presume to predict anything quite as far-fetched as that".
I also like how the prophecy is driven out of Harry's (and thereby the reader's) mind by the distraction of Buckbeak. And that misdirection, as a central tendency of Rowling's narrative is also a major motif: Scabbers faking his own death. Twice.
It is also interesting that they never see Buckbeak being executed. It makes possible an ambiguity of Rowling's time travel, keeping open the possibility that they are changing the past while in reality it would seem that the past is fixed and that their travelling is simply a part of it. But that comes later.
The scene in the Shrieking Shack is so different on a re-read. Everything Sirius says and does is ambiguous, as is Lupin's behaviour. But things only make sense when you know the truth. It was a perfectly written "what on earth is going on" scene the first time, and now it is all touching and lovely.
In fact, that whole chapter is perfectly written. The buildup, the reveal... Three thumbs up.
We are given the harmonising explanation for the ambiguity of the two version of James' saving Snape, the importance of the story of Pettigrew's finger, the Whomping Willow...
While I can see the reason for it, Rowling's compulsion for writing out the explanation for all her clues is a little annoying on the 100th reread (I've lost count), however. But I can forgive that.
Also, the end of chapter 18 has a very good cliffhanger.
*MySmiley*
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
28/07/2010 12:00:14 PM
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Chapters 1-3. *NM*
28/07/2010 12:01:10 PM
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Characters.
28/07/2010 12:03:36 PM
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Aunt Marge
28/07/2010 01:13:34 PM
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She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say...
28/07/2010 01:40:37 PM
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Re: She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say...
28/07/2010 02:15:24 PM
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Stan Shunpike.
28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM
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Re: Stan Shunpike.
28/07/2010 02:19:41 PM
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape.
28/07/2010 02:46:38 PM
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Re: True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape.
07/08/2010 02:53:43 PM
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I think, maybe, it's comparing with other wizarding schools in the world.
08/08/2010 11:35:31 AM
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Colin Creevey is working class.
28/07/2010 06:32:45 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong
28/07/2010 06:38:20 PM
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Themes, if we can discern any already this early in the book. *NM*
28/07/2010 12:04:47 PM
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First impressions on the news of Sirius Black's escape. *NM*
28/07/2010 12:05:26 PM
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Aaaah, Sirius.
28/07/2010 01:21:32 PM
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius.
28/07/2010 01:44:50 PM
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius.
28/07/2010 02:22:17 PM
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Writing style.
28/07/2010 12:07:24 PM
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It is a better book.
28/07/2010 02:00:54 PM
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Its much more mature writing style I think
28/07/2010 02:09:33 PM
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Re: Its much more mature writing style I think
28/07/2010 02:23:03 PM
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Foreshadowings, details that turn out to be important, etc. *NM*
28/07/2010 12:08:07 PM
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That is very well done in this book, I thought.
28/07/2010 02:08:21 PM
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Dont foget the most important foreshadowing!
28/07/2010 02:15:35 PM
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Chapters 4-6. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:11:45 PM
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Characters.
29/07/2010 10:23:28 AM
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin!
29/07/2010 11:48:55 AM
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Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters? *NM*
29/07/2010 02:36:20 PM
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Could be, could be.
29/07/2010 02:37:41 PM
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Well it was subtle so I don't think many people will catch it *NM*
29/07/2010 02:41:38 PM
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Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here?
30/07/2010 01:48:06 PM
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Re: Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here?
08/08/2010 11:05:02 AM
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Writing style.
29/07/2010 10:26:07 AM
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point
29/07/2010 11:57:20 AM
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Introduction of the Dementors. *NM*
29/07/2010 10:26:59 AM
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They are Rowling's most terrifying creation
29/07/2010 12:00:34 PM
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Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM*
29/07/2010 02:31:47 PM
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Yes
29/07/2010 02:34:01 PM
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I thinking something thats a little off topic
29/07/2010 02:40:36 PM
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Re: I thinking something thats a little off topic
29/07/2010 02:42:09 PM
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Ooo I didn't think of that! I like you. We can be friends
29/07/2010 02:47:31 PM
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Re: "He's at Hogwarts."
04/08/2010 11:51:05 PM
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I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers)
05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM
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Chapters 7-9. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:11:59 PM
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Characters.
30/07/2010 02:07:20 PM
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Re: Characters.
30/07/2010 02:50:07 PM
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Lupin vs. Snape
30/07/2010 06:10:07 PM
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Re: Lupin vs. Snape
30/07/2010 06:12:06 PM
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Other things you want to comment on. *NM*
30/07/2010 02:13:36 PM
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30/07/2010 02:51:13 PM
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart.
30/07/2010 06:19:16 PM
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Chapters 10-12. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:12:18 PM
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM
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Re: Plotting and writing.
02/08/2010 01:36:49 PM
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I caught that too.
02/08/2010 02:50:03 PM
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Re: I caught that too.
02/08/2010 02:53:48 PM
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I suspect....
03/08/2010 03:17:32 PM
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM*
02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM
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The Marauder's Map seems to be able to do more on this first view than later on...
02/08/2010 01:23:19 PM
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Re: The Marauder's Map seems to be able to do more on this first view than later on...
02/08/2010 01:40:47 PM
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I think she did a good job of getting the map out of Harry's hands
02/08/2010 02:44:13 PM
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Re: I think she did a good job of getting the map out of Harry's hands
02/08/2010 02:46:38 PM
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It's not that the map was wrong - on the contrary (book 4 spoilers).
02/08/2010 02:47:55 PM
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Re: It's not that the map was wrong - on the contrary (book 4 spoilers).
02/08/2010 02:57:55 PM
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No, you and Aria seem to be right - only Harry himself is depicted in miniature.
02/08/2010 03:28:11 PM
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Re: No, you and Aria seem to be right - only Harry himself is depicted in miniature.
02/08/2010 03:31:14 PM
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Agree about the Twins and my take on Harry's impression of James.
02/08/2010 02:50:11 PM
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Re: Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,...
02/08/2010 01:36:56 PM
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Chapters 13-15. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:12:57 PM
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Characters.
03/08/2010 05:25:47 PM
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Re: Characters.
03/08/2010 05:29:32 PM
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OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are.
08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM
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Agreed.
08/08/2010 02:37:18 PM
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Re: Agreed.
08/08/2010 02:45:30 PM
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There are only three named girls in his year in Gryffindor, that I'm aware of.
08/08/2010 03:08:51 PM
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Re: There are only three named girls in his year in Gryffindor, that I'm aware of.
08/08/2010 03:12:23 PM
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But the Sorting Hat decides, and they can't refuse students that I'm aware of...
08/08/2010 03:06:53 PM
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Re: But the Sorting Hat decides, and they can't refuse students that I'm aware of...
08/08/2010 03:10:28 PM
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM
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Crookshanks.
08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM
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I knew I saw this somewhere.
09/08/2010 08:16:01 PM
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Re: I knew I saw this somewhere.
09/08/2010 09:01:18 PM
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Did they come out and explain Crookshanks?
11/08/2010 04:20:18 PM
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Re: Did they come out and explain Crookshanks?
11/08/2010 04:21:37 PM
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Thanks, thought I was loosing it... well, maybe I am, but I can still read.
11/08/2010 04:26:31 PM
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM*
03/08/2010 05:26:37 PM
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss.
03/08/2010 05:36:35 PM
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I really enjoyed the first quidditch match.
03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM
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Chapters 16-18. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:13:11 PM
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Characters.
04/08/2010 04:16:39 PM
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Plotting and writing.
04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM
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Re: Plotting and writing.
04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM
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Other thoughts. *NM*
04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM
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Re: Other thoughts.
04/08/2010 05:19:45 PM
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Re: Other thoughts.
08/08/2010 03:09:23 PM
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Re: Other thoughts.
08/08/2010 03:11:43 PM
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Chapters 19-20. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM
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Characters.
05/08/2010 02:40:22 PM
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Re: Characters.
05/08/2010 02:45:53 PM
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See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
05/08/2010 03:54:31 PM
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
05/08/2010 05:01:52 PM
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Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers)
05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM
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Re: Plotting and writing.
05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM
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I think it's a good thing she explains her clues.
05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM
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Other thoughts. *NM*
05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM
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killing
05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM
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Chapters 21-22. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM
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Plotting and writing.
06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM
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And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM*
06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM
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Overall thoughts. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM
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Overarching plot and themes. *NM*
28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM*
28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM
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More of a question, really
01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM
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I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life.
02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM
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Well, but the question still remains
02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM
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I suppose this is more or less the right place for this.
04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM
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I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference.
05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM
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Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM*
05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM
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Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus.
09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM
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Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus.
09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM
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Suggestions for the re-read.
28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM
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I knew I was gonna forget something.
28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM
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Perhaps
29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM
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I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM*
29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM
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<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead>
29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM
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I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up.
02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM
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Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up.
02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM
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I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately.
03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM
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Yes
03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM
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