For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM
And the only one they win the Cup in, I think (happy now, Camilla? )
Harry continues his insane track record of winning basically every game he's not incapacitated in, and I think this is the only book in which all three the Quidditch games are both played and given some significant screen time. Smart move by Rowling to have the tournament end long before the climax of the book, though, as it would have gotten in the way later on.
Like with many other things in these early books, I wonder how much Rowling had planned ahead, and how much she just fit her plotlines in later books around previously established things (this is especially important for the relation between books two and six, I'd say). In this case, you have to wonder if she knew already that Quidditch would be much plagued the next few years, and so she had to have Harry win the Cup now so it was out of the way? Or perhaps she just did it for Wood.
The game is designed rather well, one has to say, although based on the games we see in the books, catching the Snitch seems to yield too many points, unbalancing things. Only in very rare cases does the team taking the Snitch not win the game. Like in the World Cup, where Krum prevents a massive trouncing that makes one wonder about the lack of competitiveness there seems to be in the international game. Then again, Bulgaria having the Seeker it has, and the Snitch yielding as many points as it does, one can imagine Bulgaria got to the final mostly thanks to Krum, winning most games by taking the Snitch while being fewer than 150 points down. But in general, it's a clever invention: it's exciting, it's original, team sizes are small enough that Rowling can flesh all the players out a bit (though the three girls' development is rather minimal), and perhaps most importantly, there's a lot of potential for spectacular come-from-behind victories or narrow escapes.
Harry continues his insane track record of winning basically every game he's not incapacitated in, and I think this is the only book in which all three the Quidditch games are both played and given some significant screen time. Smart move by Rowling to have the tournament end long before the climax of the book, though, as it would have gotten in the way later on.
Like with many other things in these early books, I wonder how much Rowling had planned ahead, and how much she just fit her plotlines in later books around previously established things (this is especially important for the relation between books two and six, I'd say). In this case, you have to wonder if she knew already that Quidditch would be much plagued the next few years, and so she had to have Harry win the Cup now so it was out of the way? Or perhaps she just did it for Wood.
The game is designed rather well, one has to say, although based on the games we see in the books, catching the Snitch seems to yield too many points, unbalancing things. Only in very rare cases does the team taking the Snitch not win the game. Like in the World Cup, where Krum prevents a massive trouncing that makes one wonder about the lack of competitiveness there seems to be in the international game. Then again, Bulgaria having the Seeker it has, and the Snitch yielding as many points as it does, one can imagine Bulgaria got to the final mostly thanks to Krum, winning most games by taking the Snitch while being fewer than 150 points down. But in general, it's a clever invention: it's exciting, it's original, team sizes are small enough that Rowling can flesh all the players out a bit (though the three girls' development is rather minimal), and perhaps most importantly, there's a lot of potential for spectacular come-from-behind victories or narrow escapes.
This message last edited by Legolas on 03/08/2010 at 05:53:38 PM
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Characters.
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Aunt Marge
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She's an interesting combination of tropes, one might say...
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Stan Shunpike.
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Re: Stan Shunpike.
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape.
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I think, maybe, it's comparing with other wizarding schools in the world.
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Colin Creevey is working class.
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Correct me if I'm wrong
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Themes, if we can discern any already this early in the book. *NM*
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Aaaah, Sirius.
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Re: Aaaah, Sirius.
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Writing style.
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It is a better book.
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Its much more mature writing style I think
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Re: Its much more mature writing style I think
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Foreshadowings, details that turn out to be important, etc. *NM*
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That is very well done in this book, I thought.
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Dont foget the most important foreshadowing!
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LupinLupinLupinLupinLupinLupin!
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Could be, could be.
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Well it was subtle so I don't think many people will catch it *NM*
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Is it premature to argue Harry's starting to get alienated from Ron and Hermione here?
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Writing style.
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"Plotting" might be a more interesting discussion point
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Introduction of the Dementors. *NM*
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They are Rowling's most terrifying creation
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Without his knowledge or consent of course *NM*
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Yes
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I thinking something thats a little off topic
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Ooo I didn't think of that! I like you. We can be friends
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I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers)
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Characters.
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Lupin vs. Snape
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Other things you want to comment on. *NM*
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Good spell and great scene with the Bogart.
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Re: Plotting and writing.
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I caught that too.
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I suspect....
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM*
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The Marauder's Map seems to be able to do more on this first view than later on...
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I think she did a good job of getting the map out of Harry's hands
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It's not that the map was wrong - on the contrary (book 4 spoilers).
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No, you and Aria seem to be right - only Harry himself is depicted in miniature.
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Agree about the Twins and my take on Harry's impression of James.
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Chapters 13-15. *NM*
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Re: Characters.
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OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are.
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Agreed.
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There are only three named girls in his year in Gryffindor, that I'm aware of.
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But the Sorting Hat decides, and they can't refuse students that I'm aware of...
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Crookshanks.
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I knew I saw this somewhere.
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Did they come out and explain Crookshanks?
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Thanks, thought I was loosing it... well, maybe I am, but I can still read.
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The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. *NM*
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For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book.
03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM
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I really enjoyed the first quidditch match.
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Chapters 16-18. *NM*
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Characters.
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Plotting and writing.
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Other thoughts. *NM*
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Re: Other thoughts.
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Re: Other thoughts.
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Chapters 19-20. *NM*
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Characters.
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Re: Characters.
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See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7)
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Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers)
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Plotting and writing. *NM*
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Re: Plotting and writing.
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I think it's a good thing she explains her clues.
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Other thoughts. *NM*
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killing
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Chapters 21-22. *NM*
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Plotting and writing.
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And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM*
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Overall thoughts. *NM*
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Overarching plot and themes. *NM*
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM*
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More of a question, really
01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM
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I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life.
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Well, but the question still remains
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I suppose this is more or less the right place for this.
04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM
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I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference.
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Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM*
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Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus.
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Suggestions for the re-read.
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I knew I was gonna forget something.
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Perhaps
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I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM*
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<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead>
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I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up.
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I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately.
03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM
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Yes
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