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Again... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 18/07/2010 07:35:10 PM

That would hold true either way. No matter what the Secret was, it would have to be revealed to Bathilda. Whether they were invisible or their house. That was my point.

My main issue with that is that if Pettigrew had revealed their location to people, people must have known he was the Secret Keeper. THAT is odd. Because the whole "Serius was believed to be evil" bit hinges upon everyone thinking he was the Secret Keeper.

Pretty much. It can be so either way, but this is yet another plothole. Why didn't Bathilda come out and reveal who was the Secret Keeper who told her the location?
But the critical point, anyway, is that James is unable to go out of the house without his cloak. If he was the secret, he could have.

I see you've ignored this very important point. Again...

And Petunia?

Knew their address. What's to say it wasn't held at the Godric's Hollow post office for the Potter's to collect?

It doesn't matter whether Sirius or Petunia knew where to send the gift. The Postman/owl wouldn't be able to find the place to deliver them.

Like I said, it can easily be held at the post office for them.


They can be active members of the Order and still be in hiding. There is no contradiction there. It is just about levels of hiding.

If James can't step out of the house without his cloak, and is chafing at being stuck at home, then he is quite clearly not active in the Order at the time.


See, it is perfectly possible to use "destination" and "sight" figuratively. It proves nothing either way.

Since you clearly didn't read the whole paragraph...

And along a new and darker street he moved, and now his destination was in sight at last, the Fidelius Charm broken, though they did not know it yet. . . . And he made less noise than the dead leaves slithering along the pavement as he drew level with the dark hedge, and stared over it. . . .
They had not drawn the curtains; he saw them quite clearly in their
little sitting room, the tall black-haired man in his glasses, making puffs of colored smoke erupt from his wand for the amusement of the small black-haired boy in his blue pajamas.


His sighting of the Potters comes after his sighting of the house, yet he makes the comment of the charm being broken when he sees the house.

And no one uses "destination" to mean people inside a house, instead of the house itself. Especially not when they can see the house and not the people and are referring to the destination when the house comes into view, but not the people.


Nowhere does it say "house". Language is fiddly. It is all about interpretation.

It doesn't say house, but it quite clearly isn't the people, since they don't come into sight until after he slithers across the pavement and draws level with the hedge. If its not the house, and not the people, what is it? Yet another thing that was kept hidden from Voldemort? 8}


No.

8}


There is nothing conclusive above.

There was. The fact that James couldn't leave the house without an invisibility cloak. You conveniently ignored it.


Was it the Potters' ancestral home?

Ummm... yes? Their ancestors are buried there, Sirius stayed with James's parents there, etc.

And of course it would matter. The Death Eaters would have no way of knowing whether they had chosen to stay in that house or move to another. They would have no way of verifying it either way, and Voldemort would need to KNOW that the one child that could threaten him was gone. For all they would have known, the Potters could have stayed in Hogwarts, with Sirius or under a bridge. They would also have had no way of knowing that they were in the house when it was blasted. The only way of making sure to kill the Potters would be to extinguish all life on Earth.

None of which means they wouldn't blast the house. Keeping the Potters on the run, causing random death and destruction at places they could be, all those would have been legitimate ways to bring them out in the open if they were the secret. Their location was, so blasting it wasn't an option. Anyway, Voldy proves conclusively that their house was the subject of the charm.
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