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Re: I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 18/07/2010 06:17:04 PM

All that holds for them being Secret as well. Bathilda Baghot could not visit them if their house was Secret, even if they were not. And Nobody could send them gifts if their house was Secret, as owls (or Postmen, for that matter) would not find it. I don't have the book handy. Are you sure all this happens after they have been subjected to the Secrecy Charm, rather than them merely being in (normal) hiding at this point?

Actually, it does not. Bathilda could likely visit since the Secret Keeper revealed their location to her.
But the critical point, anyway, is that James is unable to go out of the house without his cloak. If he was the secret, he could have.
People like Sirius probably knew where to send the gift because he knew the secret location of the Potters.

And they weren't in normal hiding before this. Fudge tells us they were under the Fidelius Charm for only a week. And we have been told that before they went into hiding, they were very active members of the Order (by Rowling). So there was no pre-charm hiding.



That is fine either way.

No it isn't. If the Potter's were the secret, then Voldemort's destination, their house, would have always been visible. Only they wouldn't have been.
But Voldemort clearly states that their house was his destination, and that is what was visible at last. He sees Lily and James through the window after this statement, and makes no comment on them being visible only now.

Clearly, it was the house that was concealed.


That is not a given from your quote.

It is.


This is correct.

Yes. But when was the letter written?
And either way, they would not be able to interact with the world.

Yes. And see above about when it was written.


But would they have known what to blast?


Why ever not? That House was the Potter's ancestral home. If it was not concealed, the Death Eaters would have been able to see it and blast it. The fact that James and Lily were concealed would then mean absolutely nothing.
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I'm fairly certain you guys have that totally wrong... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 05:42:18 PM 1552 Views
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Again... fionwe1987 - 18/07/2010 07:35:10 PM 1803 Views
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Re: Again... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2010 06:33:13 AM 1785 Views
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