I'm not going to argue about how it's pronounced now, but the Sanskrit "ta" (?) is certainly not to be pronounced that way in traditional pronunciation. It would have to be ? or ? to be rendered as "tha" (or pronounced that way, for that matter). How modern Indian languages pronounce those graphemes is completely beyond me, however.
? would be t with your tongue touching your teeth, ? would be th with your tongue touching your teeth. Mahabharath in Devnagri would be ???????. "T" as in table, is not how you pronounce the final ?. It sounds like "th" in that.
Whether modern Devnagri to English transliteration uses some other convention in the West or not, I've always seen the epic spelled Mahabharatha in India, and that's what I'm going to stick to.
As for the futility of war, the Mahabharata definitely shows the negative consequences of war, but the consequences of not having gone to war would have been worse. The Pandavas' enemies would triumph and destroy them anyway.
But that is, repeatedly, not shown to be the true reason for war. Duryodhana, while certainly less capable than the Pandavas, is shown to be a generous ruler, and not a bad man barring his hatred of the Pandavas.
And immediate victory so the Pandavas can have the kingdom is not the point either. Which is why they offer to settle for just five villages, instead of their huge and wealthy kingdom.
Instead, we're always told that it is the principal that is being fought for, so that "Dharma" can be said to have triumphed, and so that future generations can seek hope from this victory.
But from the way it ends, and from the way the Pandavas have to cheat their way to that victory, "Dharma" doesn't win. Humanity descends into the era of Kali, as it was inevitably supposed to. I call that futile.
One simple question:
01/07/2010 11:00:44 PM
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Lolita *NM*
01/07/2010 11:13:10 PM
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Have you read Pale Fire? *NM*
03/07/2010 12:14:56 AM
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No, I haven't. I have, however, been meaning to read The Stories of Vladimir Nabokov...
03/07/2010 12:36:39 AM
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Re: No, I haven't. I have, however, been meaning to read The Stories of Vladimir Nabokov...
03/07/2010 12:38:22 AM
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Is it unfinished? I seem to recall that, but I could be mistaken... *NM*
03/07/2010 02:15:07 AM
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Pale Fire is an excellent novel, particularly if you like making fun of Robert Frost.
03/07/2010 06:39:29 PM
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I've always planned on reading it.
04/07/2010 06:30:31 PM
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I've read all of Pelevin's books other than t, which recently was released.
04/07/2010 06:40:04 PM
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Sorry. I'm going to have to get back to you on this later.
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No problem. I'm stinking drunk and blew up shit to celebrate America's independence.
05/07/2010 05:03:42 AM
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Paradise Lost *NM*
01/07/2010 11:23:22 PM
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Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
01/07/2010 11:31:52 PM
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What is it about?
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The Aeneid, the Iliad, the Odyssey, and Macbeth come to mind. *NM*
02/07/2010 02:29:13 AM
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I'm amazed by these responses.
02/07/2010 07:10:31 PM
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I spent most of my time trying to decide...
02/07/2010 07:22:26 PM
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Well. I mean a book/story that you thought was pretty close to perfection.
02/07/2010 08:02:55 PM
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You are not excused.
02/07/2010 11:40:16 PM
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Wow. That read enough like Tom that I had to check to make sure it was you. *NM*
02/07/2010 11:57:26 PM
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I take that as a compliment and concur completely with Larry's statement.
03/07/2010 06:48:05 PM
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You make me want to sing
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And you make me want to cover my ears
05/07/2010 07:57:12 PM
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What is yours?
05/07/2010 05:19:23 AM
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Wraeththu by Storm Constantine is mine.
05/07/2010 07:51:59 AM
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Easy. The Mahabharatha...
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Don't tell Roh.
03/07/2010 12:13:57 AM
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Which one?
03/07/2010 12:59:43 AM
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Re: Which one?
05/07/2010 05:28:08 PM
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There's a "proper one"?
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Re: I sent her Kamala Subramaniam's translation.
09/07/2010 08:20:43 AM
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Ahhh... One of my favorites...
09/07/2010 05:24:55 PM
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Re: Parva is not a translation of the MB, though, is it. It's a reinterpretation. Which is fine.
09/07/2010 11:01:43 PM
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It's spelled "Mahabharata".
03/07/2010 06:51:09 PM
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That's not how it is pronounced though...
03/07/2010 08:54:27 PM
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Traditional pronunciation vs. modern pronunciation
03/07/2010 09:47:52 PM
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I learned Sanskrit for years...
04/07/2010 01:28:34 AM
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However...
04/07/2010 02:31:00 AM
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See, I was taught that ध produced the sound in "that" and थ the sound in "thought".
04/07/2010 02:44:56 AM
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Re: I should have read the thread before bothering to give my skimpy response!
09/07/2010 08:26:35 AM
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American Gods. *NM*
03/07/2010 04:49:18 AM
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I really wanted to enjoy that a lot. It was good, but not amazing, imo.
05/07/2010 05:28:53 PM
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Shogun
03/07/2010 03:08:04 PM
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huh. I always felt that...
05/07/2010 10:00:29 PM
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I really liked Tai Pan as well.
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I'd have to say Noble House is the most impressive of the three.
06/07/2010 01:30:11 PM
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A few that come to mind: Doctor Zhivago, Master & Margarita and Brothers Karamazov
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