All and none. Russia is a paradox, but one that can be explained.
Tom Send a noteboard - 19/05/2010 03:30:58 PM
There's no reason for any version of Russia to dominate discourse. Part of the beauty of Russia (and Russians) is that it is entirely possible to hold two mutually exclusive beliefs and fervently believe in both at the same time. Until this irrational (and usually, highly emotional) foundation is grasped, appreciated and internalized, the outsider can never really begin to understand anything about Russia.
Once you get it, just go with the flow of where you see the conversation or stream of thought heading and take hold of it completely. Russians never do anything halfway - there is an expression that says, essentially, if you're going to love, love! If you're going to shoot someone, shoot them! Don't hesitate, don't mediate, devote yourself completely to whatever it is that your soul is telling you to do. Once the mood leaves you, you can drop any associated ideas until they're useful again. There are a few things you can't do, though. If you've decided to love, you can only keep loving or start hating - you can't ever go back to "indifference". You can, however, go from love to hate and then back to love, and so forth, for the rest of your life. If you shoot someone, you can alternate only between "the bastard deserved to die" and "I'm a miserable person for having done that and the guilt will follow me, persecuted and oppressed and unhappy me, until the day I die...now I'm going to have another bottle of vodka to try to forget this".
Once you get it, just go with the flow of where you see the conversation or stream of thought heading and take hold of it completely. Russians never do anything halfway - there is an expression that says, essentially, if you're going to love, love! If you're going to shoot someone, shoot them! Don't hesitate, don't mediate, devote yourself completely to whatever it is that your soul is telling you to do. Once the mood leaves you, you can drop any associated ideas until they're useful again. There are a few things you can't do, though. If you've decided to love, you can only keep loving or start hating - you can't ever go back to "indifference". You can, however, go from love to hate and then back to love, and so forth, for the rest of your life. If you shoot someone, you can alternate only between "the bastard deserved to die" and "I'm a miserable person for having done that and the guilt will follow me, persecuted and oppressed and unhappy me, until the day I die...now I'm going to have another bottle of vodka to try to forget this".
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Russian Book Club: Chapaev and Pustota or Buddha's Little Finger
16/05/2010 03:42:07 PM
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I'll have my full thoughts up in a few hours
16/05/2010 04:33:54 PM
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Could you give me a better reference as to where that was in the book?
17/05/2010 03:09:16 AM
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Chapter 5, just before Kocurkin appears for the first time. *NM*
17/05/2010 02:34:30 PM
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In Russian it says "succubus" became the Russian "suka" or "bitch" *NM*
17/05/2010 02:49:03 PM
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Ahh, so the English version is closer.
17/05/2010 07:38:35 PM
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This reply is mostly empty of thoughts.
16/05/2010 05:37:54 PM
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I'll wait until it is substantially empty but nominally full, then. *NM*
17/05/2010 03:09:52 AM
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OK, here's what I wrote for the OF Blog on this book
17/05/2010 02:22:18 AM
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I like the way your review is an un-review.
17/05/2010 03:08:20 AM
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That's what I wanted to convey, since it's hard to be definitive with such a work
17/05/2010 03:16:19 AM
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I wouldn't term it "fantasy".
18/05/2010 02:24:40 PM
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My thoughts.
17/05/2010 02:16:11 PM
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Pelevin isn't a real Buddhist, he's a superficial pop-culture Buddhist.
18/05/2010 02:33:37 PM
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Re: Pelevin isn't a real Buddhist, he's a superficial pop-culture Buddhist.
18/05/2010 10:37:36 PM
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It is apparently called Clay Machine Gun in the UK.
17/05/2010 02:41:41 PM
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It's Čapajev a Prázdnota (Chapaev and Emptiness) in Czech
17/05/2010 07:46:14 PM
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In Russian prazdny or prazdnost' would mean "lazy, inactive" *NM*
18/05/2010 02:21:42 PM
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Bah. No bookshop in Edinburgh has it. Amazon will have to be my saviour.
18/05/2010 12:56:28 PM
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I like this passage about 10 pages from the end of the book on Russia
17/05/2010 02:56:49 PM
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I think the pseudo-Buddhist bit is not as good as the Russian vodka psychology.
18/05/2010 02:35:07 PM
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Perhaps
18/05/2010 02:38:24 PM
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All and none. Russia is a paradox, but one that can be explained.
19/05/2010 03:30:58 PM
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Re: I think the pseudo-Buddhist bit is not as good as the Russian vodka psychology.
18/05/2010 11:12:10 PM
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And I still don't have a copy of this book!
17/05/2010 07:37:35 PM
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I'll bet you could find a Russian version online if you searched rambler.ru. *NM*
18/05/2010 02:35:49 PM
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Re: I know a weird "lending library" sort of site that can give you the English version.
20/05/2010 12:48:57 PM
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