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to the world of the ancients and helping bring the Renaissance about. The crusades, and specifically the fourth crusade, were vital in starting the 13th century Renaissance in Italy.

We'll never know if it would have happened anyway.



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Analysis: Farewell to the Fourth Crusade wads - 16/04/2004 12:58:05 AM 170 Views
*shrugs* it IS interesting, but... LiterateDog - 16/04/2004 12:59:43 AM 26 Views
I disagree wads - 16/04/2004 01:01:06 AM 21 Views
i know its about symbolism LiterateDog - 16/04/2004 01:03:11 AM 15 Views
But the symbolism Monotonous Mantra - 16/04/2004 01:05:55 AM 15 Views
i'm not saying it won't LiterateDog - 16/04/2004 01:10:04 AM 13 Views
The Pope's gesture, while admirable chorabliss - 16/04/2004 01:42:22 AM 27 Views
better late than never : he is at laest triyng melambra - 16/04/2004 09:04:55 AM 10 Views
Very interesting snoopster - 16/04/2004 07:52:20 AM 13 Views
Two Wongs - 16/04/2004 10:06:30 AM 17 Views
But, if you fought at that battle, snoopster - 16/04/2004 10:27:37 AM 9 Views
Meh Two Wongs - 16/04/2004 10:40:27 AM 9 Views
No snoopster - 16/04/2004 10:45:18 AM 8 Views
Elaine - 16/04/2004 11:30:28 AM 11 Views
snoopster - 16/04/2004 11:33:23 AM 8 Views
Ah. Elaine - 16/04/2004 11:42:28 AM 8 Views
Bugger snoopster - 16/04/2004 11:46:49 AM 6 Views
See?! Elaine - 16/04/2004 11:48:25 AM 6 Views
Woe? snoopster - 16/04/2004 11:58:56 AM 5 Views
And sorrow. Elaine - 16/04/2004 11:59:59 AM 7 Views
Oh snoopster - 16/04/2004 12:07:39 PM 6 Views
I agree that Manzikert was worse for Byzantium, but... The Voice of Lews Therin - 16/04/2004 11:13:28 AM 14 Views
And yet it was crucial to opening up the eyes of the West chorabliss - 16/04/2004 11:41:34 AM 13 Views
But snoopster - 16/04/2004 11:45:55 AM 12 Views
What ifs are not the subject of historians and students of history. chorabliss - 16/04/2004 11:52:12 AM 18 Views
I just tend to dislike absolutes,I just always feel we never know 100% snoopster - 16/04/2004 12:01:23 PM 9 Views
Agreed we dont know everything. chorabliss - 16/04/2004 12:33:45 PM 7 Views
But it wasn't the sack per se that led to the Renaissance... The Voice of Lews Therin - 16/04/2004 04:41:39 PM 9 Views
The Crusades are a horrible blight on the face of Christianity. strong_bad - 16/04/2004 12:38:54 PM 11 Views
Ecumenicals will be the death of us... OR Hey! What about Protestants SSJPabs - 16/04/2004 08:41:09 PM 5 Views
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