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Re: So in the Swabian accent there is no difference between s and ss? ponder stibbons - 26/04/2004 02:33:52 AM

I noticed that, at my last job, the Germans in the office seemed to have two ways of pronouncing the "ch" - in many instances (for example, in "ich" ) it was closer to a "sh" sound than to the hard "ch" sound...is that dialectical and if so, from which region? Sorry, I just remembered that when you mentioned the "s" issue.
Pronouncing "ch" almost as an "sh" is dialectal, but I can't determine exactly where this is common. I'm sure the area lies more to the north, maybe the valley of the Rhine and some places close to that.

I think it also depends on how attractive the mademoiselle in question is.
Note that there is a difference between a mademoiselle (unmarried, not necessarily attractive) and a "mademoiselle" (attractive, not necessarily unmarried) .


Sank you!
You're velcome! (Although some Germans might say "Please" here, the German word "Bitte" meaning both.)


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Re: So in the Swabian accent there is no difference between s and ss? ponder stibbons - 26/04/2004 02:33:52 AM 1 Views
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