Active Users:972 Time:21/11/2024 07:21:52 PM
sorry, I have been learning from the president lately mierin sedai - 19/01/2003 11:05:44 AM

...and I thought we had stopped placing the burden of proof on the actorate.

You made a statement of fact, which was not proven. IT is not my responsibility to disprove it, it is yours to prove it, as you offered it. We call this the fallacy of Subverted Support, as it has not been tested. Perhaps it is true, though I cannot see it. Do you have proof for your assertion?

I have been trying to handle the internet (with which I have little skill), and I found this page for you:
http://www.aeobih.com.ba/teslic_confp5.htm

"In the United States, we are witnessing a historic display of public discussion over the election system. Many Americans are, for the first time, being educated on the intricacies of the US election system. Most Americans have never given much thought to how their ballots are designed; most have never cared whether the ballots were counted by hand or by machine. And, until a few weeks ago, very few Americans could explain to you the system of Electoral College."

and:
http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/sc2200/sc2221/000031/000002/html/sun12-19-2000.html

"He suggested that the drawn-out struggle between Gore and Bush had been a teachable moment for a nation largely ignorant of how its electoral system really works. "

and here is an interesting one:
http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/darrel/eddm111100.htm


Perhaps you do not know that the electoral college is taught in highschool in America, for the purpose of educating the population. It is in text-books. Now, whether or not people pass those tests is another question, so perhaps you have some proof.

as I said: my skill with internet is bad to say the least.

So I ask you again: you made a statement that can only be come to through some wisdom, some knowledge; for obviously, one of your intelligence would not hastily make such a biased and unsupported statement.

It is based on things I have read, but for the life of me I cannot remember where or when.
It may have been in connection with lessons in school or reading a newspaper.


Magnus Alexander corpore parvus erat
Dissenting voice of wotmania
Frightfully stubborn pacifist

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent




View/create new replies Sign up for a premium account to add posts to a list of favourites!
To all peace-loving Americans - 15/01/2003 02:21:45 PM 465 Views
A Norwegian replies: - 15/01/2003 02:30:52 PM 112 Views
I know I must have misunderstood that message..... - 15/01/2003 02:33:11 PM 56 Views
Re: To all peace-loving Americans - 15/01/2003 02:39:49 PM 40 Views
Good Link, aero. *NM* - 15/01/2003 02:47:19 PM 1 Views
That was excellent! Thanks AC - 15/01/2003 02:52:10 PM 1 Views
I have a theory, aero, and that is - 15/01/2003 03:01:58 PM 1 Views
lol - 15/01/2003 03:03:59 PM 1 Views
- 15/01/2003 03:08:35 PM 1 Views
Am so human - 15/01/2003 03:16:05 PM 1 Views
Thx ac nice article *NM* - 15/01/2003 03:16:48 PM 1 Views
I shall treasure those three words forever... *NM* - 15/01/2003 03:16:51 PM 1 Views
I've been thinking that same thought for ages. - 15/01/2003 03:33:54 PM 1 Views
simple.... - 15/01/2003 03:37:50 PM 1 Views
Because the first time... - 15/01/2003 03:55:47 PM 1 Views
Re: I have a theory, aero, and that is - 15/01/2003 03:55:58 PM 1 Views
Theories, reality. - 15/01/2003 03:57:24 PM 1 Views
That was the most patronising piece of #$%^ I've read in a long time - 15/01/2003 04:32:38 PM 41 Views
Once upon a time there was a mad dictator - 15/01/2003 04:42:04 PM 49 Views
The message is devoid of sincerity (not saying you are, tho, Mierin) - 15/01/2003 04:57:21 PM 34 Views
Who would flame you? You speak the truth! *NM* - 15/01/2003 05:00:11 PM 1 Views
A point that do-gooders seem to forget - 15/01/2003 05:13:30 PM 1 Views
Do people really misunderstand the electoral college? - 15/01/2003 05:24:50 PM 30 Views
A little tongue-in-cheek, but a good statement: - 15/01/2003 05:39:07 PM 15 Views
I thought you were talking about Bush! *NM* - 15/01/2003 05:46:21 PM 1 Views
One flaw here - 15/01/2003 06:11:24 PM 1 Views
I don't think that's entirely fair, but it's too late for me to expl y *NM* - 15/01/2003 06:14:18 PM 5 Views
my answer to you.. - 15/01/2003 06:25:52 PM 1 Views
Oh, please! - 15/01/2003 06:34:49 PM 21 Views
My answer to your answer - 15/01/2003 06:48:42 PM 1 Views
No - they ignore it altogether; it's how they make us a dictatorship *NM* - 15/01/2003 06:50:05 PM 1 Views
True... - 15/01/2003 07:01:11 PM 1 Views
of course not... we all know what it is meant for - 15/01/2003 07:04:10 PM 1 Views
Re: True... - 15/01/2003 07:10:16 PM 1 Views
Re: To all peace-loving Americans - 15/01/2003 07:14:09 PM 15 Views
No - 15/01/2003 07:19:01 PM 1 Views
Their President likes it, but not many others - 15/01/2003 08:02:49 PM 1 Views
thank you meirin, some one speaks the truth *NM* - 15/01/2003 08:08:26 PM 6 Views
There's no perfect solution to the problem. - 15/01/2003 08:13:25 PM 1 Views
Sorry, double-post. *NM* - 15/01/2003 08:50:03 PM 1 Views
Hmmm . . . - 15/01/2003 09:01:26 PM 13 Views
Hmm *NM* - 15/01/2003 09:50:18 PM 1 Views
Oops *NM* - 15/01/2003 10:27:01 PM 1 Views
What no Links? *NM* - 15/01/2003 10:31:02 PM 1 Views
Re: A wonderful letter. - 15/01/2003 10:33:04 PM 30 Views
Small points. - 15/01/2003 11:35:26 PM 1 Views
Re: - 15/01/2003 11:50:15 PM 1 Views
oh, so you say... - 16/01/2003 12:46:13 AM 1 Views
you see? we cannot both be wrong... *NM* - 16/01/2003 12:47:08 AM 1 Views
huh? - 16/01/2003 12:57:32 AM 1 Views
thank you *NM* - 16/01/2003 12:58:58 AM 1 Views
when was the first time it happened? *NM* - 16/01/2003 01:00:21 AM 1 Views
who are you to... - 16/01/2003 01:02:02 AM 1 Views
though we should learn from history - 16/01/2003 01:03:41 AM 1 Views
let me see... - 16/01/2003 01:38:21 AM 1 Views
no, and that is just the point - 16/01/2003 01:45:10 AM 1 Views
allow me to repeat myself - 16/01/2003 01:48:12 AM 1 Views
lol - 16/01/2003 01:50:22 AM 1 Views
- 16/01/2003 01:54:32 AM 1 Views
*NM* - 16/01/2003 01:56:36 AM 1 Views
Re: Hmmm . . . - 16/01/2003 01:57:58 AM 1 Views
who is Spiro Agnew? - 16/01/2003 01:59:54 AM 1 Views
I stopped at that myself - 16/01/2003 02:00:45 AM 1 Views
Small points - 16/01/2003 08:47:17 AM 1 Views
UN Security Council resolutions... What a joke - 16/01/2003 09:24:18 AM 1 Views
Re: Small points. - 16/01/2003 09:49:58 AM 1 Views
Re: huh? - 16/01/2003 09:59:40 AM 1 Views
Technicalities aside... - 16/01/2003 10:13:25 AM 1 Views
Re: who is Spiro Agnew? - 16/01/2003 10:18:42 AM 1 Views
Yes. And Mierin seems to think... - 16/01/2003 10:22:52 AM 1 Views
Re: Bush V. Gore - 16/01/2003 10:26:11 AM 1 Views
I am TRYING! Next voting he will lose. *NM* - 16/01/2003 08:07:35 PM 4 Views
I guess we do. *NM* - 17/01/2003 04:56:00 AM 1 Views
arab league biased? - 17/01/2003 05:01:12 AM 1 Views
difference is - 17/01/2003 05:04:00 AM 1 Views
thanks *NM* - 17/01/2003 05:05:47 AM 1 Views
finally! - 17/01/2003 05:07:02 AM 1 Views
No, you're wrong - 17/01/2003 12:34:48 PM 1 Views
I did not know that - 17/01/2003 02:17:36 PM 1 Views
Despite the fact that the United Nations is impotent... - 17/01/2003 02:30:46 PM 1 Views
that is very kind of you - 17/01/2003 03:06:16 PM 1 Views
Maybe this will clear things up - 17/01/2003 04:33:04 PM 1 Views
a couple of small details - 17/01/2003 06:17:27 PM 1 Views
True enough. But, um, the comparison is to Bush.. - 17/01/2003 07:03:47 PM 1 Views
actually, I knew all that - 18/01/2003 08:39:39 AM 1 Views
Re: a couple of small details - 18/01/2003 08:45:15 AM 1 Views
lol - 18/01/2003 08:46:21 AM 1 Views
what ethnic minority was blamed? - 18/01/2003 08:53:27 AM 1 Views
Ok... - 18/01/2003 06:18:31 PM 1 Views
Re: Hey mierin. - 19/01/2003 12:08:27 AM 1 Views
Re: The vote: - 19/01/2003 12:15:24 AM 1 Views
The most recent number I heard... - 19/01/2003 01:33:41 AM 1 Views
*starts at sig* oh, well... that will have to wait - 19/01/2003 08:02:53 AM 1 Views
can you deny it? - 19/01/2003 08:04:24 AM 1 Views
oh. sorry - 19/01/2003 08:06:32 AM 1 Views
Last I heard - 19/01/2003 08:07:22 AM 1 Views
Re: LOL!! - 19/01/2003 10:24:39 AM 1 Views
Re: - 19/01/2003 10:41:58 AM 1 Views
sorry, I have been learning from the president lately - 19/01/2003 11:05:44 AM 1 Views
Re: Re: - 19/01/2003 11:18:07 AM 1 Views
They seem conflicted to me - 19/01/2003 12:45:59 PM 1 Views
We were both wrong - 19/01/2003 05:11:42 PM 1 Views
something in between then... - 19/01/2003 05:18:39 PM 1 Views
Let me get this straight... - 19/01/2003 05:33:29 PM 1 Views
Wasn't it already straight? - 19/01/2003 05:47:13 PM 1 Views
What I'm confused about - 19/01/2003 09:42:36 PM 1 Views
You are mixing up two things - 20/01/2003 02:09:28 AM 1 Views
Ok. It looks like I agree with you on most points. - 20/01/2003 02:22:29 PM 1 Views
good - 20/01/2003 03:49:14 PM 1 Views
The other controversial elections - 21/01/2003 12:57:13 AM 1 Views
I see. thanks. *NM* - 21/01/2003 01:51:10 AM 1 Views