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sometimes, yes mierin sedai - 17/01/2003 02:03:19 PM

Depending on what it was, of course. But money is... money. Nestle has enough of it

The right of the ownership is one of the fundamental rights. Just like the freedom of speech etc. Period. If Etiopian government wanted to size control over the factory, it should have paid a compensation. Instead they decided to steal. Nestle's claim is perfectly understandable.

Norway has it in the law that all timber-comapnies and other companies in foreign hands that use Norwegian resources automatically fall back to the Norwegian state after an amount of years. I cannot see how this is very much different, and Nestle bought the mother-company TEN YEARS after the incident in question.

This is none of Oxfam's businness. If they had 51% of shares in Nestle they could decide on the matter.

Is it not all consumers' business? I cannot see how Oxfam should be excempt. What is Oxfam, anyway?

Then the government should take actions that would eventually lead to eliminating the hunger. I can't recall Ethipian government trying to fight the hunger in the last 20 years. Instead they chose to start a war and purchase military equipment.

if you say so. I guess it is a good thing that Nestle have now said that they will put some of the money back into the country, but you can bet your ass that would not have happened if people had not been making a big fuss about it.

That's the best solution. The money invested by an independent company will not be wasted by the corrupted Ethiopian government and the people will have work.

see above

F*ck Oxfam. I don't interfere with their actions and they have no right to mess with Nestle-Ethiopia case.

why not?

Well, I bet you are buying some other products made by a similar company or maybe even by Nestle. You just don't know it.

If they are selling them under different names, perhaps (though I am aware of some and boycott them aswell). I do however check new products, and I am forced to abstain from one of my favourite chocolate bars because of them

PS. If you want to understand Ethiopia better, I honestly recommend a book by Ryszard Kapuscinski called "The Emperor" (Norwegian title "Keisaren" published by Det Norske Samlaget, Oslo 1986) - a real masterpiece. You ma also want to try his "Shah of Shahs", which is about Iran (Norwegian "Sjahen", Det Norske Samlaget, Oslo 1988 ). Or you just read any book by him. Any.

I will check it out some time, though at the moment I am so overloaded with books I have to read on religious history and classical history, there is not room in my head nor in my pocketbook or bookshelves for any more

Ryszard Kapuscinski is one of my favourite journalists and a wonderful, absolutely wonderful writer.


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Dissenting voice of wotmania
Frightfully stubborn pacifist

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Nestle - 17/01/2003 08:02:01 AM 189 Views
*will boycott too* *NM* - 17/01/2003 08:03:25 AM 5 Views
good *NM* - 17/01/2003 01:54:04 PM 5 Views
Yes. Nestlé suck. - 17/01/2003 08:05:14 AM 18 Views
Cadbury? Green and Black? - 17/01/2003 01:54:41 PM 7 Views
Different brands of chocolate.... - 17/01/2003 02:36:41 PM 11 Views
they sound nice. - 17/01/2003 02:42:39 PM 7 Views
Did you type up that whole thing?! - 17/01/2003 09:24:33 AM 7 Views
yes? - 17/01/2003 01:53:16 PM 5 Views
Yeah. I've been boycotting for ages because of the milk thing *NM* - 17/01/2003 09:35:55 AM 8 Views
me too *NM* - 17/01/2003 01:53:43 PM 4 Views
So, if someone robs you of something that belonged to you, you accept - 17/01/2003 10:30:29 AM 32 Views
sometimes, yes - 17/01/2003 02:03:19 PM 16 Views
That's not the whole truth. - 17/01/2003 11:26:22 AM 31 Views
but the main point is - 17/01/2003 02:05:16 PM 13 Views
Nestle is in the right. The right thing to do from a 'nice guy'... - 17/01/2003 11:33:09 AM 30 Views
right - 17/01/2003 02:06:12 PM 16 Views
Re: Nestle is in the right. The right thing to do from a 'nice guy'... - 17/01/2003 02:14:56 PM 20 Views
I'd love to see Nestle win this lawsuit on principle - 17/01/2003 02:57:40 PM 13 Views
Nestle = evil *NM* - 17/01/2003 12:55:40 PM 8 Views
close enough *NM* - 17/01/2003 02:06:26 PM 3 Views
First Coca-cola, then Nestle... my list is growing... *NM* - 17/01/2003 02:36:32 PM 4 Views
I could tip you off on some others if you'd like... *NM* - 17/01/2003 02:43:55 PM 5 Views
please. I`d love some more reasons to critizise the market. *NM* - 19/01/2003 12:34:09 PM 6 Views
and a chance to criticize Norway at that... - 19/01/2003 05:13:09 PM 8 Views
I think I`ll just move to Iceland... - 20/01/2003 04:55:57 AM 5 Views
you speakest wise words - 20/01/2003 05:03:28 AM 4 Views
But the gov't took the company _before_ Nestle got involved. - 17/01/2003 03:47:03 PM 14 Views
You're obviously not a lawyer. - 17/01/2003 04:13:08 PM 14 Views
Nope. More of a Shakespeare fan. He had the right idea. *NM* - 20/01/2003 01:21:16 PM 5 Views
morally no, I agree - 18/01/2003 08:20:48 AM 9 Views
those dudes suck! *NM* - 19/01/2003 09:56:09 PM 5 Views
I am inclined to agree with you *NM* - 20/01/2003 01:58:55 AM 4 Views